From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: shemminger@osdl.org, mchan@broadcom.com,
herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, jesse.brandeburg@intel.com,
auke-jan.h.kok@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [e1000]: Remove unnecessary tx_lock
Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:56:42 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1154797002.5081.21.camel@jzny2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060804.163111.85390037.davem@davemloft.net>
On Fri, 2006-04-08 at 16:31 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>
>
> > The real risk is that the transmit routine will decide it's busy, but
> > at the same time an IRQ on another CPU will clean up the whole ring
> > and make the queue available again. Then the transmit routine exits and
> > says its busy, and the higher level will decide it is permanently stopped.
>
Doesnt this mean we need to hold the txlock longer to avoid the race?
It will also mean we need to have a consistent programming model of the
drivers (as an example: When is it not advisable to prune tx ring on the
tx path? My gut feeling at the moment is i would rather have receive
path do a lot of dirty work so as to prioritize transmit)
> Yes, it's meant to catch unintented races.
>
This section of the tx path is quiet hairy. Would a patch to make
qdisc_restart more readable be a sensible thing to submit?
> The queueing layer that calls ->hard_start_xmit() technically has no
> need to support NETDEV_TX_BUSY as a return value, since the device
> is able to prevent this.
>
I noticed that the e1000 in some cases returns NETDEV_TX_OK even when it
has stopped the queue. This results in wasted calls into the qdisc.
It seems the tg3 is doing as well. I put a little counter and the amount
of those useless calls that happen in incredible.
I was going to experiment with infact returning an additional code
NETDEV_TX_BUSY_QUEUED which signals the core to just go away.
> If we could avoid NETDEV_TX_BUSY et al. from happening, the idea is
> that we could eliminate all of the requeueing logic in the packet
> scheduler layer. It is a pipe dream from many years ago.
>
Still doable IMO - maybe a motivation for something to experiment with
this long weekend.
cheers,
jamal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-05 16:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-03 13:15 [PATCH] [e1000]: Remove unnecessary tx_lock jamal
2006-08-03 14:02 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-03 14:24 ` jamal
2006-08-03 16:36 ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-03 18:05 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-03 22:08 ` jamal
2006-08-04 0:09 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-04 1:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 8:37 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:16 ` jamal
2006-08-04 10:25 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 10:45 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:04 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:06 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:21 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:30 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 16:45 ` jamal
2006-08-04 17:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-04 17:28 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-04 18:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-08-04 23:31 ` David Miller
2006-08-05 16:56 ` jamal [this message]
2006-08-05 23:05 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:17 ` jamal
2006-08-05 23:19 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-05 23:36 ` jamal
2006-08-06 2:51 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 7:14 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 7:24 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 7:30 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 7:26 ` David Miller
2006-08-06 7:36 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 8:06 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 8:27 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 9:03 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 9:10 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 9:18 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-06 8:35 ` David Miller
2006-08-06 12:24 ` jamal
2006-08-06 12:33 ` jamal
2006-08-06 23:16 ` Jesse Brandeburg
2006-08-07 12:50 ` jamal
2006-08-07 15:21 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 15:40 ` jamal
2006-08-07 15:59 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 16:31 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2006-08-07 17:04 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 18:00 ` jamal
2006-08-07 18:47 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 19:03 ` jamal
2006-08-07 19:14 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 19:34 ` jamal
2006-08-07 20:28 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-08 0:52 ` jamal
2006-08-07 20:53 ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-08 1:07 ` jamal
2006-08-07 23:23 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 23:35 ` Brandeburg, Jesse
2006-08-07 23:40 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 16:29 ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2006-08-07 16:36 ` jamal
2006-08-06 19:22 ` jamal
2006-08-08 1:19 ` jamal
2006-08-08 1:22 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08 1:33 ` jamal
2006-08-08 2:17 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08 3:10 ` jamal
2006-08-08 12:21 ` jamal
2006-08-08 12:39 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-06 17:20 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-06 23:04 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-07 3:56 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-07 4:21 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-08 17:04 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-08 22:06 ` David Miller
2006-08-08 23:21 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-09 0:25 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-09 1:25 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-08-04 1:16 ` jamal
2006-08-04 1:18 ` Herbert Xu
2006-08-04 1:25 ` jamal
2006-08-04 4:06 ` Michael Chan
2006-08-03 22:06 ` jamal
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2006-08-08 5:43 Brandeburg, Jesse
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