From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Lee Revell Subject: Re: ALSA problems with 2.6.18-rc3 Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:49:32 -0400 Message-ID: <1155163773.26338.226.camel@mindpipe> References: <44D8F3E5.5020508@ukonline.co.uk> <200608092307.27615.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <1155161498.26338.216.camel@mindpipe> <200608092328.47039.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <200608092328.47039.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net To: Alistair John Strachan Cc: Takashi Iwai , Andrew Benton , Gene Heskett , alsa-devel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 23:28 +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > I think this argument is mostly deflated by the fact that other > multimedia-centric operating systems do not ship with controls muted. > If hardware is detected, all sliders are set to 50%. I think this is > superior. The developers audio drivers for other operating systems have full access to the documentation of all the hardware they support, so it's possible for them to establish "working" defaults for every device. Lee ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751418AbWHIWt3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:49:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751421AbWHIWt3 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:49:29 -0400 Received: from viper.oldcity.dca.net ([216.158.38.4]:33987 "HELO viper.oldcity.dca.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751418AbWHIWt2 (ORCPT ); Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:49:28 -0400 Subject: Re: ALSA problems with 2.6.18-rc3 From: Lee Revell To: Alistair John Strachan Cc: Gene Heskett , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Benton , Takashi Iwai , alsa-devel In-Reply-To: <200608092328.47039.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> References: <44D8F3E5.5020508@ukonline.co.uk> <200608092307.27615.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> <1155161498.26338.216.camel@mindpipe> <200608092328.47039.s0348365@sms.ed.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:49:32 -0400 Message-Id: <1155163773.26338.226.camel@mindpipe> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2006-08-09 at 23:28 +0100, Alistair John Strachan wrote: > I think this argument is mostly deflated by the fact that other > multimedia-centric operating systems do not ship with controls muted. > If hardware is detected, all sliders are set to 50%. I think this is > superior. The developers audio drivers for other operating systems have full access to the documentation of all the hardware they support, so it's possible for them to establish "working" defaults for every device. Lee