From: Chandra Seetharaman <sekharan@us.ibm.com>
To: Magnus Damm <magnus@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: rohitseth@google.com, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
Dave Hansen <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrey Savochkin <saw@sw.ru>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
hugh@veritas.com, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Kirill Korotaev <dev@sw.ru>,
devel@openvz.org, Pavel Emelianov <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [PATCH 4/7] UBC: syscalls (user interface)
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:34:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1156271658.6479.89.camel@linuxchandra> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1156219087.21411.89.camel@localhost>
On Tue, 2006-08-22 at 12:58 +0900, Magnus Damm wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 18:16 -0700, Rohit Seth wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-08-21 at 11:47 +0900, Magnus Damm wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 07:45 -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 12:08 +0400, Andrey Savochkin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A) Have separate memory management for each container,
> > > > > with separate buddy allocator, lru lists, page replacement mechanism.
> > > > > That implies a considerable overhead, and the main challenge there
> > > > > is sharing of pages between these separate memory managers.
> > > >
> > > > Hold on here for just a sec...
> > > >
> > > > It is quite possible to do memory management aimed at one container
> > > > while that container's memory still participates in the main VM.
> > > >
> > > > There is overhead here, as the LRU scanning mechanisms get less
> > > > efficient, but I'd rather pay a penalty at LRU scanning time than divide
> > > > up the VM, or coarsely start failing allocations.
> > >
> > > This could of course be solved with one LRU per container, which is how
> > > the CKRM memory controller implemented things about a year ago.
> >
> > Effectively Andrew's idea of faking up nodes is also giving per
> > container LRUs.
>
> Yes, but the NUMA emulation approach is using fixed size containers
> where the size is selectable at the kernel command line, while the CKRM
> (and pzone) approach provides a more dynamic (and complex) solution.
NUMA emulation does not allow guarantee, only limits. It also doesn't
allow over commit (ove commit issue is present in pzone based approach
also).
>
> / magnus
>
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Thread overview: 209+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-16 15:24 [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 15:35 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/7] UBC: kconfig Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 19:57 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 21:14 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-08-25 15:12 ` Pavel Machek
2006-08-16 15:37 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/7] UBC: core (structures, API) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:58 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:42 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 17:15 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 11:45 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 12:14 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 14:32 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 12:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:11 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 18:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 11:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 11:53 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:55 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 11:14 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 17:51 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 5:31 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 7:35 ` [PATCH " Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-18 8:26 ` [ckrm-tech] " Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 15:59 ` [RFC][PATCH " Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 14:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 18:59 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 1:58 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:38 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-21 11:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 12:23 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-22 12:46 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 14:38 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-21 17:35 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-20 4:58 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-20 5:01 ` Balbir Singh
2006-08-16 15:38 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/7] UBC: ub context and inheritance Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:51 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 13:21 ` [Devel] " Pavel V. Emelianov
2006-08-18 2:42 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 9:23 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:19 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 20:03 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 10:32 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 20:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:39 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/7] UBC: syscalls (user interface) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 17:17 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 12:02 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:17 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:04 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 19:22 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 12:13 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 15:40 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 8:08 ` [PATCH " Andrey Savochkin
2006-08-18 14:45 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 16:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 17:29 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 17:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 17:59 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 18:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-21 2:42 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-18 18:09 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 18:17 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 18:27 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 18:56 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 19:16 ` Chris Friesen
2006-08-18 21:19 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-18 19:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 21:16 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-21 2:38 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 7:48 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 8:42 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 9:03 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 9:18 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-21 13:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 17:51 ` Paul Jackson
2006-08-22 8:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 2:47 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 1:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 3:58 ` Magnus Damm
2006-08-22 18:34 ` Chandra Seetharaman [this message]
2006-08-24 1:20 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 11:05 ` [RFC][PATCH " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:08 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 12:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:05 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 11:09 ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 14:04 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:19 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-18 2:31 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:45 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-19 2:43 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-18 11:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-18 20:13 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:40 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/7] UBC: kernel memory accounting (core) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:56 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 13:47 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 18:24 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 13:27 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 14:38 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 9:31 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:58 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 10:40 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 15:10 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 15:06 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 12:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:02 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 9:38 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 16:55 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-21 10:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 1:23 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 18:47 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-16 19:15 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:59 ` [ckrm-tech] " Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 0:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 14:26 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 15:01 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 16:04 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18 10:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:37 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 15:19 ` Rik van Riel
2006-08-17 17:28 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 18:43 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-17 17:49 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 17:06 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:16 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:23 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-17 17:36 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 17:53 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:54 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:52 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 17:38 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-21 11:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-22 1:48 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 7:43 ` Pavel V. Emelianov
2006-08-18 8:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 8:52 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-18 19:32 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 9:44 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 16:42 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 16:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-17 0:22 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 16:36 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 8:44 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 13:35 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 17:13 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-18 8:49 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 13:31 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 14:36 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-18 8:12 ` [ckrm-tech] " Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 14:43 ` Dave Hansen
2006-08-21 8:57 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 20:26 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 10:51 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 20:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-16 15:42 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/7] UBC: kernel memory acconting (mark objects) Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 16:57 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-16 15:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 7/7] UBC: proc interface Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-16 17:13 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 13:43 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 15:40 ` Greg KH
2006-08-17 16:12 ` [Devel] " Kir Kolyshkin
2006-08-16 18:53 ` [RFC][PATCH] UBC: user resource beancounters Rohit Seth
2006-08-16 19:26 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-17 0:15 ` [ckrm-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-17 11:02 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-08-17 13:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-17 19:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 10:36 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-18 18:53 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 22:55 ` Matt Helsley
2006-08-21 10:55 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 21:04 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-18 19:39 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 13:24 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-21 21:45 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-21 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-21 22:44 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-22 1:45 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 10:02 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-22 9:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-08-22 11:15 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 1:31 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-22 18:55 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 1:44 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-24 2:04 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 11:10 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-24 23:48 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 23:55 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-08-25 18:21 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 20:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 21:37 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 22:51 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 22:59 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-24 17:27 ` Rohit Seth
2006-08-24 23:52 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 11:12 ` Kirill Korotaev
2006-08-25 18:47 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 20:52 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 22:23 ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-08-25 23:12 ` Alan Cox
2006-08-25 23:00 ` Chandra Seetharaman
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