From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jim Gettys <jg@laptop.org>, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/21] high resolution timers / dynamic ticks - V2
Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 12:23:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1159817005.4312.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610021908.k92J8J8c012853@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
On Mon, 2006-10-02 at 15:08 -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:38:36 PDT, john stultz said:
>
> > Hmmm. So w/ -mm2 we're seeing the TSC get detected as running too slowly
> > (and its replaced w/ the ACPI PM), but for some reason that doesn't
> > happen w/ the dynticks patch.
>
> It's been switching to ACPI PM for somewhere near forever, I never bothered
> to check into that because the PM timer provides a reasonably stable clock
> source (it drifts at about 24 ppm and NTP is happy with it, and I haven't
> gotten annoyed at the fact the PM timer is slow to read...)
>
> I wonder if the TSC has been broken for forever on this box, and I'm just
> seeing it because dynticks doesn't fall over to PM timer..
This is what I suspect is the issue. Probably due to the new jiffies
accounting being now time based, and one of the TSC unstable checks (the
one you're tripping) being jiffies based. A tad bit circular :). I'm
working w/ tglx to see what we can do here.
> > Now, how is cpuspeed changing the cpufreq? Is it using the /sys
> > interface? I've got hooks in so when the cpufreq changes we should mark
> > it unstable and fall back to ACPI PM, but maybe I missed whatever hook
> > cpuspeed is using.
>
> Looking at the source, it appears to do this:
>
> const char SYSFS_CURRENT_SPEED_FILE[] =
> "/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu%u/cpufreq/scaling_setspeed";
>
> // set the current CPU speed
> void set_speed(unsigned value)
> {
> #ifdef DEBUG
> fprintf(stderr, "[cpu%u] Setting speed to: %uKHz\n", cpu, value);
> #endif
> write_line(CURRENT_SPEED_FILE, "%u\n", value);
> // give CPU / chipset voltage time to settle down
> usleep(10000);
> }
I'll also take a peek there and see if I cannot add an extra hook, so we
don't have to rely on the jiffies stability check.
thanks
-john
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-02 19:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-01 22:59 [patch 00/21] high resolution timers / dynamic ticks - V2 Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 22:59 ` [patch 01/21] GTOD: exponential update_wall_time Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 02/21] GTOD: persistent clock support, core Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 03/21] GTOD: persistent clock support, i386 Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 04/21] time: uninline jiffies.h Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 05/21] time: fix msecs_to_jiffies() bug Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 06/21] time: fix timeout overflow Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 07/21] cleanup: uninline irq_enter() and move it into a function Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 08/21] dynticks: extend next_timer_interrupt() to use a reference jiffie Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 09/21] hrtimers: namespace and enum cleanup Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 10/21] hrtimers: clean up locking Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 11/21] hrtimers: state tracking Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:00 ` [patch 12/21] hrtimers: clean up callback tracking Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 13/21] hrtimers: Move and add documentation Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 14/21] clockevents: core Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 15/21] clockevents: drivers for i386 Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 16/21] high-res timers: core Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-02 11:50 ` Paulo Marques
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 17/21] dynticks: core Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-02 6:41 ` [patch] dynticks: core, NMI watchdog fix Ingo Molnar
2006-10-02 8:54 ` [patch] dynticks: core, NMI watchdog fix, #2 Ingo Molnar
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 18/21] dyntick: add nohz stats to /proc/stat Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 19/21] dynticks: i386 arch code Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 20/21] high-res timers, dynticks: enable i386 support Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-01 23:01 ` [patch 21/21] debugging feature: timer stats Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-02 5:11 ` [patch 00/21] high resolution timers / dynamic ticks - V2 Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-02 13:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-02 13:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-02 18:25 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-02 18:38 ` john stultz
2006-10-02 19:08 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-02 19:23 ` john stultz [this message]
2006-10-02 18:43 ` [patch] dynticks core: Fix idle time accounting Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-02 20:17 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-02 21:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-02 21:35 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-03 20:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-03 21:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-04 2:33 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-04 7:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-04 9:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-10-03 3:23 ` [patch 00/21] high resolution timers / dynamic ticks - V2 Andrew Morton
2006-10-03 4:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-03 8:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-03 8:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-03 10:35 ` [patch] clockevents: drivers for i386, fix #2 Ingo Molnar
2006-10-04 3:36 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-04 6:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-04 7:32 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-04 7:41 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-04 8:01 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-04 7:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-04 8:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-04 10:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-10-04 11:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-04 16:02 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-04 16:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-10-04 16:35 ` Ingo Molnar
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