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From: Sergio Monteiro Basto <sergio@sergiomb.no-ip.org>
To: Lee Revell <rlrevell@joe-job.com>
Cc: Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortel.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: AMD X2 unsynced TSC fix?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 04:58:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1162007907.26022.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1161986902.27225.206.camel@mindpipe>

On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 18:08 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: 
> On Fri, 2006-10-27 at 15:48 -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
> > Lee Revell wrote:
> > 
> > > What exactly does that AMD patch do?
> > 
> > "...by periodically adjusting the core time-stamp-counters, so that they 
> > are synchronized."
> > 
> > It sounds like they just periodically write a new value to the TSC. 
> > Presumably they set the "slower" one equal to the "faster" one.
> > 
> > You'd likely still have windows where time might run backwards, but it 
> > would be better than nothing.
> 
> The patch also apparently changes boot params to make the OS use the
> ACPI PM timer, so it must not be a complete solution.

Hi,
So far, has I can understand. Seems to me that my computer which have a
Pentium D (Dual Core) on VIA chipset, also have unsynchronized TSC and
with the patch of hrtimers on
( http://www.tglx.de/projects/hrtimers/2.6.18/ ) 
Kernel found and use a new clocksource, the acpi_pm. And works stable
but I don't deny that could be a little slower.

Just to point out. This could be more a problem of chipsets than CPUs
(AMD or Intel). AMD just begin first using x86_64 archs :)

Last Note: 
I still have other minor problem, seems (to me) related with SATA
drives. Kernel 2.4.19-rc3 have big changes on SATA and I like to test it
but can't apply hrtimers patch (I don't understand half seems in kernel
other half not). 
In rc3 with jiffies clocksource even with boot parameter "notsc" I have
unsynchronized issues and many "Lost timer tickets", but I can say that
is a regression because computer never work well.

Thanks,
--
Sérgio M. B. 


  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-28  3:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-27 17:15 AMD X2 unsynced TSC fix? Lee Revell
2006-10-27 20:18 ` Luca Tettamanti
2006-10-27 23:04   ` thockin
2006-10-28  0:00     ` Luca Tettamanti
2006-10-28  0:17       ` Lee Revell
2006-10-28  2:46       ` thockin
2006-10-28  3:59         ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28  6:32           ` thockin
2006-10-28  9:14           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-10-28 18:22           ` Lee Revell
2006-10-28 19:57             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2006-10-28 22:54               ` thockin
2006-10-28  1:04     ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28  3:28       ` Lee Revell
2006-10-28  5:28         ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-28 18:08           ` Lee Revell
2006-10-28 19:14             ` thockin
2006-10-30 17:22             ` Langsdorf, Mark
2006-10-28 18:37           ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28 19:15             ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-28 19:18               ` thockin
2006-10-28 19:32                 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-28 19:42                   ` thockin
2006-10-28 20:16                     ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-28 19:33               ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28 20:04                 ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-28 20:11                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28 20:36                     ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-29  1:28                 ` Lee Revell
2006-10-28 21:00               ` Lee Revell
2006-10-31 11:12           ` Pádraig Brady
2006-10-31 15:31             ` Willy Tarreau
2006-10-30 20:30     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-10-27 20:35 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-27 20:41   ` Lee Revell
2006-10-27 21:48     ` Chris Friesen
2006-10-27 22:08       ` Lee Revell
2006-10-28  3:58         ` Sergio Monteiro Basto [this message]
2006-10-28  4:06           ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28  4:22             ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-10-30  3:10               ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-10-30 15:23                 ` Andi Kleen
     [not found]                   ` <1162253008.2999.9.camel@localhost.portugal>
2006-10-31  0:14                     ` Lee Revell
2006-10-31  0:25                       ` john stultz
2006-10-31  2:41                     ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-10-31 15:05                       ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-11-01  1:46                       ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-11-01  2:44                         ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-11-08  0:22                           ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-11-08 19:53                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2006-11-09  0:39                               ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-11-09  1:13                                 ` john stultz
2006-11-09  1:27                                   ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-11-15  1:51                                   ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
     [not found]                                     ` <20061115193514.41C01102C011@mail.goron.de>
2006-11-16  1:38                                       ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-11-16  1:45                                         ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-10-28  6:35             ` thockin
2006-10-28  6:46               ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-28  6:49                 ` thockin
2006-10-28  7:13                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-28  7:25                     ` thockin
2006-10-28  9:46                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28  9:45                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-28  9:48               ` Andi Kleen
2006-10-27 21:58 ` Friedrich Göpel

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