From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@osdl.org>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>, Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [patch] drivers: wait for threaded probes between initcall levels
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:34:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1162078498.29146.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4543C22A.2060203@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Ar Sad, 2006-10-28 am 22:48 +0200, ysgrifennodd Stefan Richter:
> I hear network interfaces can be selected by their MACs, which are
> globally unique and persistent. Most SCSI hardware has globally unique
> and persistent unit properties too, and udev indeed uses them these days.
You hear incorrectly. The MAC address is only required to be *machine
unique*, please see the 802.1/2 specification documents for more detail.
Distinguishing by card MAC is a hack that works on some systems only.
SCSI is also unreliable for serial numbers because of USB, brain-dead
raid controllers and other devices that fake the same ident for many
devices.
There is another ugly too - many driver/library layers "know" that
during boot the code is not re-entered so has no locking. Before you can
go multi-probe you also have to fix all the locking in the drivers that
have boot time specific functionality (eg IDE).
Alan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-10-28 23:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 169+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-10-23 23:22 Linux 2.6.19-rc3 Linus Torvalds
2006-10-24 2:24 ` Gene Heskett
2006-10-24 7:46 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2006-10-24 18:07 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-10-24 20:21 ` 2.6.19-rc3: known unfixed regressions Adrian Bunk
2006-10-24 20:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-24 20:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-24 21:44 ` 2.6.19-rc3: known unfixed regressions: confirmations teunis
2006-10-26 15:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 15:54 ` teunis
2006-10-25 1:51 ` 2.6.19-rc3: known regressions with patches Adrian Bunk
2006-10-25 1:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-25 11:25 ` Linux 2.6.19-rc3 Jean Delvare
2006-10-25 12:01 ` Damien Wyart
2006-10-25 16:25 ` Auke Kok
2006-10-26 7:20 ` Jean Delvare
2006-10-25 20:13 ` Linux 2.6.19-rc3: !CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET unsets CONFIG_PHYLIB, but CONFIG_USB_USBNET also needs CONFIG_PHYLIB Athanasius
2006-10-25 22:17 ` [PATCH] " Randy Dunlap
2006-10-25 22:27 ` David Brownell
2006-10-25 22:27 ` David Brownell
2006-10-25 23:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] usbnet: use MII hooks only if CONFIG_MII is enabled Randy Dunlap
2006-10-26 2:22 ` David Brownell
2006-11-02 7:15 ` Greg KH
2006-11-02 20:29 ` David Brownell
2006-11-03 2:27 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-03 2:47 ` David Brownell
2006-11-03 2:58 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-11-04 2:51 ` [2.6 patch] USB_RTL8150 must select MII Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 15:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] usbnet: use MII hooks only if CONFIG_MII is enabled Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 15:51 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-10-28 11:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-28 21:10 ` David Brownell
2006-10-28 21:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-10-28 22:30 ` David Brownell
2006-10-28 21:39 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-31 17:40 ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2006-10-31 18:07 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-31 19:36 ` David Brownell
2006-11-01 1:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-02 20:19 ` David Brownell
2006-10-25 23:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] !CONFIG_NET_ETHERNET unsets CONFIG_PHYLIB, but CONFIG_USB_USBNET also needs CONFIG_PHYLIB Randy Dunlap
2006-10-25 23:59 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-26 2:24 ` David Brownell
2006-10-26 5:05 ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-10-26 5:24 ` David Brownell
2006-10-26 22:45 ` 2.6.19-rc3: known unfixed regressions (v2) Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 22:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-26 22:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-27 1:02 ` [RFC: 2.6.19 patch] let PCI_MULTITHREAD_PROBE depend on BROKEN Adrian Bunk
2006-10-27 1:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-27 1:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-27 2:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 17:07 ` Greg KH
2006-10-27 17:22 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-27 18:39 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-27 18:41 ` vmlinux.lds: consolidate initcall sections Andrew Morton
2006-10-27 18:42 ` [patch] drivers: wait for threaded probes between initcall levels Andrew Morton
2006-10-27 18:47 ` Stephen Hemminger
2006-10-27 20:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-27 20:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-27 20:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-28 1:11 ` Greg KH
2006-10-28 1:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-27 22:59 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-27 23:06 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-28 5:09 ` Grant Grundler
2006-10-28 5:19 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-28 5:32 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-28 6:08 ` Grant Grundler
2006-10-28 20:48 ` Stefan Richter
2006-10-28 23:34 ` Alan Cox [this message]
2006-10-29 2:01 ` Randy Dunlap
2006-10-30 9:44 ` Cornelia Huck
2006-10-30 10:48 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-30 12:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-27 23:12 ` Olaf Hering
2006-10-27 19:31 ` vmlinux.lds: consolidate initcall sections Haavard Skinnemoen
2006-10-29 10:21 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2006-10-27 19:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-27 20:17 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-27 20:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-27 22:23 ` [RFC: 2.6.19 patch] let PCI_MULTITHREAD_PROBE depend on BROKEN Adrian Bunk
2006-10-27 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-28 1:08 ` Greg KH
2006-10-27 23:03 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-27 22:57 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-27 8:27 ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-29 23:13 ` 2.6.19-rc3: known unfixed regressions (v3) Adrian Bunk
2006-10-29 23:13 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-30 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 13:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 15:27 ` Martin Lorenz
2006-10-30 16:17 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-10-30 16:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 17:20 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-10-30 17:20 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-10-30 17:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 17:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-30 17:34 ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2006-10-30 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-30 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-30 18:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-10-30 19:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-30 19:06 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-10-31 12:47 ` Martin Lorenz
2006-10-30 18:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-31 21:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-10-31 21:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 3:01 ` 2.6.19-rc <-> ThinkPads Adrian Bunk
2006-11-01 3:15 ` Len Brown
2006-11-01 3:15 ` Len Brown
2006-11-01 5:11 ` Ernst Herzberg
2006-11-01 5:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 5:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 5:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 5:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 6:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 6:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 17:25 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 18:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 18:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 19:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 19:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 19:34 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 19:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 21:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 21:15 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 22:35 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-11-01 22:35 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-11-01 6:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 6:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 9:33 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2006-11-01 17:17 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-01 13:50 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-01 13:50 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-01 16:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-01 16:36 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-04 3:49 ` 2.6.19-rc <-> ThinkPads, summary Adrian Bunk
2006-11-04 13:51 ` Hugh Dickins
2006-11-04 14:04 ` Russell King
2006-11-05 6:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-11-07 20:06 ` Russell King
2006-11-07 20:19 ` Ernst Herzberg
2006-11-17 1:53 ` 2.6.19-rc <-> ThinkPads, (related Ubuntu bug report) Mark Stosberg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-10-28 8:23 [patch] drivers: wait for threaded probes between initcall levels Adam J. Richter
2006-10-28 9:22 ` Russell King
2006-10-28 12:10 ` Russell King
2006-10-28 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-28 23:50 Adam J. Richter
2006-10-28 23:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-30 14:23 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-30 14:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-30 15:00 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-10-30 15:05 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-10-30 15:28 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-10-30 18:56 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-30 14:42 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-30 18:47 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-10-30 19:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-31 5:39 ` Grant Grundler
2006-10-29 20:38 Adam J. Richter
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