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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] barrier: a scalable synchonisation barrier
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:01:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1170417689.17464.11.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070202115612.GA106@tv-sign.ru>

On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 14:56 +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 02/01, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 	void synchronize_qrcu(struct qrcu_struct *qp)
> > > > 	{
> > > > 		int idx;
> > > > 	
> > > > 		smp_mb();
> > > > 	
> > > > 		if (atomic_read(qp->ctr[0]) + atomic_read(qp->ctr[1]) <= 1) {
> > > > 			smp_rmb();
> > > > 			if (atomic_read(qp->ctr[0]) +
> > > > 			    atomic_read(qp->ctr[1]) <= 1)
> > > > 				goto out;
> > > > 		}
> > > > 	
> > > > 		mutex_lock(&qp->mutex);
> > > > 		idx = qp->completed & 0x1;
> > > > 		atomic_inc(qp->ctr + (idx ^ 0x1));
> > > > 		/* Reduce the likelihood that qrcu_read_lock() will loop */
> > > > 		smp_mb__after_atomic_inc();
> > > > 		qp->completed++;
> > > > 	
> > > > 		atomic_dec(qp->ctr + idx);
> > > > 		__wait_event(qp->wq, !atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx));
> > > > 		mutex_unlock(&qp->mutex);
> > > > 	out:
> > > > 		smp_mb();
> > > > 	}
> > > > 
> > > > For the first "if" to give a false positive, a concurrent switch had
> > > > to have happened.  For example, qp->ctr[0] was zero and qp->ctr[1]
> > > > was two at the time of the first atomic_read(), but then qp->completed
> > > > switched so that both qp->ctr[0] and qp->ctr[1] were one at the time
> > > > of the second atomic_read.  The only way the second "if" can give us a
> > > > false positive is if there was another change to qp->completed in the
> > > > meantime -- but that means that all of the pre-existing qrcu_read_lock()
> > > > holders must have gotten done, otherwise the second switch could not
> > > > have happened.  Yes, you do incur three memory barriers on the fast
> > > > path, but the best you could hope for with your approach was two of them
> > > > (unless I am confused about how you were using barrier_sync()).
> 
> Yes. Without synchronize_qrcu() in between, one of the counters should be == 0,
> another >= 1. == 1 means we have no active readers. So the false positive really
> means a concurrent switch. And we can check twice - excellent idea!
> 
> > > While doing qrcu, somehow I convinced myself we can't optimize out taking
> > > qp->mutex. Now I think I was wrong. Good!
> > 
> > Me, I didn't want to worry about it unless someone needed it.  Which
> > it now appears they do.  ;-)
> 
> No. I do remember I tried hard to optimize out taking qp->mutex, but failed.
> So I decided it is not possible. And now you show that I just don't have enough
> brains! (of course, I hate you :)
> 
> > > Q: you deleted "if (atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx) == 1)" fastpath under ->mutex,
> > > was this needed for this optimization to work? I am asking because I can't
> > > understand how it can make any difference.
> > 
> > Before, we held the lock, so we could just check the single current
> > element.  Now we don't hold the lock, so we need to check both elements.
> > So I replaced the "if (atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx) == 1)" with the
> > nested "if" statements that test both elements.
> 
> Ah, my question was different. The current version of qrcu does
> 
> 	mutex_lock(&qp->mutex);
> 
> 	idx = qp->completed & 0x1;
> 	if (atomic_read(qp->ctr + idx) == 1)	// fast path
> 		return;
> 
> 	...
> 
> and it seems to me that we can retain this fastpath even with your optimization,
> no? Surely, it is not so important, but it is nearly free.
> 
> Paul, could you make a patch? (I'll do rcutorture test tomorrow, but I only have
> P-4 ht).
> 
> Peter, do you think you can use qrcu?

Yes, this looks very much like what I need. Awesome work! 


  reply	other threads:[~2007-02-02 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-28 11:51 [PATCH 0/7] breaking the global file_list_lock Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 11:51 ` [PATCH 1/7] lockdep: lock_set_subclass - reset a held locks subclass Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 11:51 ` [PATCH 3/7] barrier: a scalable synchonisation barrier Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 14:39   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:24     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 15:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-31 19:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-01-31 21:13         ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-31 21:30           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-01-31 21:48           ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-31 23:32             ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-01  0:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-02-01  0:48                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-01 16:00                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-01 21:38                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-02 11:56                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-02 12:01                         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-02-02 17:13                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-03 16:38                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-02-04  0:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-02-04  3:24                       ` Alan Stern
2007-02-04  5:46                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2007-01-28 11:51 ` [PATCH 4/7] fs: break the file_list_lock for sb->s_files Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 14:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:21     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 15:30       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 15:36           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:44         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 16:25         ` Bill Huey
2007-01-28 11:51 ` [PATCH 5/7] fs: restore previous sb->s_files iteration semantics Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 11:51 ` [PATCH 6/7] schedule_on_each_cpu_wq() Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 11:51 ` [PATCH 7/7] fs: fixup filevec_add_drain_all Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 12:16 ` [PATCH 8/7] fs: free_write_pipe() fix Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 14:43 ` [PATCH 0/7] breaking the global file_list_lock Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-28 15:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-29 13:32     ` Stephen Smalley
2007-01-29 18:02       ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 15:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 16:52     ` Martin J. Bligh
2007-01-28 17:04       ` lockmeter Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 17:38         ` lockmeter Martin J. Bligh
2007-01-28 18:01           ` lockmeter Bill Huey
2007-01-28 19:26             ` lockmeter Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 21:17             ` lockmeter Ingo Molnar
2007-01-29  5:27               ` lockmeter Bill Huey
2007-01-29 10:26                 ` lockmeter Bill Huey
2007-01-29  1:08         ` lockmeter Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-29  1:12           ` lockmeter Martin J. Bligh
2007-01-28 18:41   ` [PATCH 0/7] breaking the global file_list_lock Ingo Molnar
2007-01-28 20:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-28 21:05       ` Ingo Molnar

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