From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from jazzhorn.ncsc.mil (mummy.ncsc.mil [144.51.88.129]) by tarius.tycho.ncsc.mil (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id l32JsbtQ024006 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:54:37 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com (jazzhorn.ncsc.mil [144.51.5.9]) by jazzhorn.ncsc.mil (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l32Jsaft001189 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2007 19:54:36 GMT Subject: Re: secmark integration From: Karl MacMillan To: James Morris Cc: Joshua Brindle , Eric Paris , Daniel J Walsh , selinux@tycho.nsa.gov In-Reply-To: References: <1175284031.3602.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1175286309.20396.13.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46111709.9060402@redhat.com> <1175525718.20396.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46113A09.4040607@manicmethod.com> <1175534882.5433.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:52:17 -0400 Message-Id: <1175543537.5492.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-selinux@tycho.nsa.gov List-Id: selinux@tycho.nsa.gov On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:47 -0400, James Morris wrote: > On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Karl MacMillan wrote: > > > I think that controlling port binding plus separating the traffic with > > secmark will be sufficient in most cases. There is no advantage to > > replicating the port binding rules with secmark (except perhaps with > > protocols that connect to random ports like nis or ftp). > > There definitely is, as connection tracking will ensure that only packets > which are valid for the connection are labeled appropriately, so you don't > need open rules for ephemeral ports etc., as well as the tighter security > in general. > I'm not arguing that secmark doesn't have some advantages, particularly around connection tracking. What I'm saying is that controlling port binding in the way we currently do is sufficient as a starting point. Karl -- This message was distributed to subscribers of the selinux mailing list. If you no longer wish to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@tycho.nsa.gov with the words "unsubscribe selinux" without quotes as the message.