From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@gmail.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>,
"Shai Fultheim (Shai@scalex86.org)" <shai@scalex86.org>,
pravin b shelar <pravin.shelar@calsoftinc.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Pierre.Peiffer" <Pierre.Peiffer@bull.net>
Subject: Re: Shared futexes (was [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes)
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 15:15:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1175865300.6483.183.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0704061353330.18160@blonde.wat.veritas.com>
On Fri, 2007-04-06 at 14:02 +0100, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > some thoughts on shared futexes;
> >
> > Could we get rid of the mmap_sem on the shared futexes in the following
> > manner:
> >
> > - do a page table walk to find the pte;
>
> ("walk" meaning descent down the levels, I presume, rather than across)
indeed.
> I've not had time to digest your proposal, and I'm about to go out:
> let me sound a warning that springs to mind, maybe it's entirely
> inapproriate, but better said than kept silent.
>
> It looks as if you're supposing that mmap_sem is needed to find_vma,
> but not for going down the pagetables. It's not a simple as that:
> you need to be careful that a concurrent munmap from another thread
> isn't freeing pagetables from under you.
>
> Holding (down_read) of mmap_sem is one way to protect against that.
> try_to_unmap doesn't have that luxury: in its case, it's made safe
> by the way free_pgtables does anon_vma_unlink and unlink_file_vma
> before freeing any pagetables, so try_to_unmap etc. won't get there;
> but you can't do that.
Ah, drad.
I had hoped that the pte_lock would solve that race, but that doesn't
cover the upper levels of the tree.
Back to the drawing board..
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-06 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-08 7:07 [RFC] NUMA futex hashing Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-08-08 9:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 20:31 ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-08-08 9:37 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-08 9:58 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 10:07 ` Jes Sorensen
2006-08-08 9:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 10:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 10:36 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 12:29 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 12:47 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-08 12:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 14:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 15:11 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 15:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 16:22 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:26 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:49 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 16:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 16:34 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-08 16:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 1:56 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-08 16:58 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-08-08 17:08 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 1:58 ` Nick Piggin
2006-08-09 6:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 6:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 19:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes, SMP and NUMA improvements Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 20:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-16 8:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-16 9:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-16 10:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-03-16 10:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-03-16 10:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-04 7:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-05 17:49 ` [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes Eric Dumazet
2007-04-05 20:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-06 1:19 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 5:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-06 11:50 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 6:05 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-06 17:41 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-04-06 12:26 ` Shared futexes (was [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes) Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-06 13:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2007-04-06 13:15 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2007-04-06 13:15 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 13:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-06 13:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-06 12:31 ` [PATCH] FUTEX : new PRIVATE futexes Peter Zijlstra
2007-04-07 8:43 ` [PATCH, take4] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-07 9:30 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-07 10:00 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 7:22 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 8:14 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 9:23 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:30 ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-04-11 9:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:40 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-11 9:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-12 1:57 ` Nick Piggin
2007-04-07 11:18 ` Jakub Jelinek
2007-04-07 11:54 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-07 16:40 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-04-07 22:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-04-10 9:21 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 9:19 ` [PATCH, take5] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-11 12:23 ` Rusty Russell
2007-04-26 12:55 ` [PATCH, take6] " Eric Dumazet
2007-04-26 13:35 ` Pierre Peiffer
2007-03-15 19:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] FUTEX : introduce PROCESS_PRIVATE semantic Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 19:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] FUTEX : introduce private hashtables Eric Dumazet
2007-03-15 20:25 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 21:09 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-03-15 21:29 ` Nick Piggin
2007-03-15 22:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-03-15 19:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] FUTEX : NUMA friendly global hashtable Eric Dumazet
2006-08-09 0:13 ` [RFC] NUMA futex hashing Ravikiran G Thirumalai
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