From: Ram Pai <linuxram@us.ibm.com>
To: devel@openvz.org
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.osdl.org,
viro@ftp.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Devel] Re: [patch 05/10] add "permit user mounts in new namespace" clone flag
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 01:47:00 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1176713221.9488.17.camel@ram.us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1mz1cq3v6.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
>
> "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com> writes:
>
> > Quoting Miklos Szeredi (miklos@szeredi.hu):
> >> From: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>
> >>
> >> If CLONE_NEWNS and CLONE_NEWNS_USERMNT are given to clone(2) or
> >> unshare(2), then allow user mounts within the new namespace.
> >>
> >> This is not flexible enough, because user mounts can't be enabled
> for
> >> the initial namespace.
> >>
> >> The remaining clone bits also getting dangerously few...
> >>
> >> Alternatives are:
> >>
> >> - prctl() flag
> >> - setting through the containers filesystem
> >
> > Sorry, I know I had mentioned it, but this is definately my least
> > favorite approach.
> >
> > Curious whether are any other suggestions/opinions from the
> containers
> > list?
>
> Given the existence of shared subtrees allowing/denying this at the
> mount
> namespace level is silly and wrong.
>
> If we need more than just the filesystem permission checks can we
> make it a mount flag settable with mount and remount that allows
> non-privileged users the ability to create mount points under it
> in directories they have full read/write access to.
Also for bind-mount and remount operations the flag has to be propagated
down its propagation tree. Otherwise a unpriviledged mount in a shared
mount wont get reflected in its peers and slaves, leading to unidentical
shared-subtrees.
RP
>
> I don't like the use of clone flags for this purpose but in this
> case the shared subtress are a much more fundamental reasons for not
> doing this at the namespace level.
>
> Eric
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-16 8:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-12 16:45 [patch 00/10] (resend) mount ownership and unprivileged mount syscall Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 01/10] add user mounts to the kernel Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 02/10] allow unprivileged umount Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 03/10] account user mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 04/10] add "permit user mounts" flag to namespaces Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 05/10] add "permit user mounts in new namespace" clone flag Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 20:32 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-13 4:16 ` Herbert Poetzl
2007-04-13 7:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-13 4:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-13 7:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-13 13:47 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-13 14:22 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-16 8:47 ` Ram Pai [this message]
2007-04-16 9:32 ` [Devel] " Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-16 9:49 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-16 9:56 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-16 15:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-16 15:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-16 19:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-16 19:56 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-17 9:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-17 11:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 18:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-17 18:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 19:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-18 9:11 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-18 13:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-18 14:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-18 14:26 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-18 15:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-18 19:00 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-04-18 15:06 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-18 17:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-18 18:05 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-19 9:02 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 14:25 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-17 14:28 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-16 17:14 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-16 17:50 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 17:07 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-17 17:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 18:15 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-04-17 18:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 19:28 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-17 19:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-17 20:25 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-18 9:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-18 18:35 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-18 19:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-18 19:41 ` Ram Pai
2007-04-19 8:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 06/10] propagate error values from clone_mnt Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 07/10] allow unprivileged bind mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 08/10] put declaration of put_filesystem() in fs.h Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 09/10] allow unprivileged mounts Miklos Szeredi
2007-04-12 16:45 ` [patch 10/10] allow unprivileged fuse mounts Miklos Szeredi
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