From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1423316AbXDYIut (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Apr 2007 04:50:49 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1423315AbXDYIut (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Apr 2007 04:50:49 -0400 Received: from nigel.suspend2.net ([203.171.70.205]:38772 "EHLO nigel.suspend2.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1423316AbXDYIus (ORCPT ); Wed, 25 Apr 2007 04:50:48 -0400 Subject: Re: suspend2 merge (was Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: CFS and suspend2: hang in atomic copy) From: Nigel Cunningham Reply-To: nigel@nigel.suspend2.net To: Xavier Bestel Cc: Pavel Machek , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Christian Hesse , Nick Piggin , Mike Galbraith , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Con Kolivas , suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, Andrew Morton , Thomas Gleixner , Arjan van de Ven In-Reply-To: <1177490913.30284.38.camel@frg-rhel40-em64t-04> References: <200704182245.24156.mail@earthworm.de> <20070418211632.GA7610@elte.hu> <200704182357.28107.mail@earthworm.de> <20070418220228.GA14536@elte.hu> <1176947576.5906.21.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> <20070419070437.GA25211@elte.hu> <20070424202336.GC16503@elf.ucw.cz> <20070424212408.GD16457@elf.ucw.cz> <20070425072350.GA6866@ucw.cz> <1177490913.30284.38.camel@frg-rhel40-em64t-04> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Z4sZDMpaytPImnz3RCT1" Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:50:46 +1000 Message-Id: <1177491047.3857.32.camel@nigel.suspend2.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.1 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-Z4sZDMpaytPImnz3RCT1 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi. On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 10:48 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-25 at 07:23 +0000, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > I absolutely detest all suspend-to-disk crap. Quite frankly, I hate t= he=20 > > > whole thing. I think they've _all_ caused problems for the "true" sus= pend=20 > > > (suspend-to-ram), and the last thing I want to see is three or four=20 > >=20 > > Well, it is a bit more complex than that. > >=20 > > suspend-to-disk is a workaround for > >=20 > > 'suspend-to-ram eats too much power' (plus some details like > > being able to replace battery). > >=20 > > suspend-to-ram is a workaround for > >=20 > > 'idle machine takes way too much power' (plus some details > > like don't spin the disk so that machine is safe to carry). >=20 > I think it depends on who you ask. I personally think that suspend-to- > $youchoose is a workaround for the slowness of system startup. I never > turn off my laptop, I just suspend it. >=20 > (And guess what, it uses APM and suspend is really faster and way more > reliable than each kernel implementation I could try). If you tried Suspend2 and had problems with reliability, please send me logs. I'll do all I can to help. (I have to qualify it a bit, because I'm not able to fix drivers, but if it's a Suspend2 issue, tell me and I'll fix it). Regards, Nigel --=-Z4sZDMpaytPImnz3RCT1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBGLxZmN0y+n1M3mo0RApiTAJ9rr6FkTsuJanUSbmYBxryZC5RMHACgv0Zb PYBzjPfqHWpvribBUBCDkZQ= =wIb1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Z4sZDMpaytPImnz3RCT1--