From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.171] helo=mgw-ext12.nokia.com) by canuck.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.63 #1 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1HoHqT-00043I-US for linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org; Wed, 16 May 2007 07:39:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three From: Artem Bityutskiy To: Jamie Lokier In-Reply-To: <20070516113434.GC20482@mail.shareable.org> References: <20070515151919.GA32510@lazybastard.org> <17994.1241.436841.681216@stoffel.org> <20070515191926.GB1220@lazybastard.org> <1179291255.2859.195.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20070516110933.GA5472@lazybastard.org> <20070516113434.GC20482@mail.shareable.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:38:18 +0300 Message-Id: <1179315498.3642.19.camel@sauron> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: akpm@osdl.org, Evgeniy Polyakov , Albert Cahalan , John Stoffel , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Oeser , Pekka Enberg , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Jan Engelhardt , Greg KH , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , David Woodhouse Reply-To: dedekind@infradead.org List-Id: Linux MTD discussion mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 12:34 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > J=C3=B6rn Engel wrote: > > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:54:14 +0800, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > Personally I'd just go for 'JFFS3'. After all, it has a better claim = to > > > the name than either of its predecessors :) > >=20 > > Did you ever see akpm's facial expression when he tried to pronounce > > "JFFS2"? ;) >=20 > JFFS3 is a good, meaningful name to anyone familiar with JFFS2. >=20 > But if akpm can't pronounce it, how about FFFS for faster flash > filesystem.... ;-) The problem is that JFFS2 will always be faster in terms of I/O speed anyway, just because it does not have to maintain on-flash indexing data structures. But yes, it is slow in mount and in building big inodes, so the "faster" is confusing. --=20 Best regards, Artem Bityutskiy (=D0=91=D0=B8=D1=82=D1=8E=D1=86=D0=BA=D0=B8=D0=B9 =D0=90= =D1=80=D1=82=D1=91=D0=BC) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762037AbXEPLkq (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 May 2007 07:40:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758236AbXEPLkg (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 May 2007 07:40:36 -0400 Received: from smtp.nokia.com ([131.228.20.171]:64569 "EHLO mgw-ext12.nokia.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758212AbXEPLkf convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Wed, 16 May 2007 07:40:35 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three From: Artem Bityutskiy Reply-To: dedekind@infradead.org To: Jamie Lokier Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel , akpm@osdl.org, Evgeniy Polyakov , Albert Cahalan , Greg KH , John Stoffel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Oeser , Pekka Enberg , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Jan Engelhardt , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , David Woodhouse In-Reply-To: <20070516113434.GC20482@mail.shareable.org> References: <20070515151919.GA32510@lazybastard.org> <17994.1241.436841.681216@stoffel.org> <20070515191926.GB1220@lazybastard.org> <1179291255.2859.195.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20070516110933.GA5472@lazybastard.org> <20070516113434.GC20482@mail.shareable.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:38:18 +0300 Message-Id: <1179315498.3642.19.camel@sauron> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.3 (2.8.3-2.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2007 11:38:18.0784 (UTC) FILETIME=[B3135200:01C797AE] X-Nokia-AV: Clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 12:34 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Jörn Engel wrote: > > On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:54:14 +0800, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > Personally I'd just go for 'JFFS3'. After all, it has a better claim to > > > the name than either of its predecessors :) > > > > Did you ever see akpm's facial expression when he tried to pronounce > > "JFFS2"? ;) > > JFFS3 is a good, meaningful name to anyone familiar with JFFS2. > > But if akpm can't pronounce it, how about FFFS for faster flash > filesystem.... ;-) The problem is that JFFS2 will always be faster in terms of I/O speed anyway, just because it does not have to maintain on-flash indexing data structures. But yes, it is slow in mount and in building big inodes, so the "faster" is confusing. -- Best regards, Artem Bityutskiy (Битюцкий Артём) From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Artem Bityutskiy Subject: Re: [PATCH] LogFS take three Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 14:38:18 +0300 Message-ID: <1179315498.3642.19.camel@sauron> References: <20070515151919.GA32510@lazybastard.org> <17994.1241.436841.681216@stoffel.org> <20070515191926.GB1220@lazybastard.org> <1179291255.2859.195.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20070516110933.GA5472@lazybastard.org> <20070516113434.GC20482@mail.shareable.org> Reply-To: dedekind@infradead.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Cc: akpm@osdl.org, Evgeniy Polyakov , Albert Cahalan , John Stoffel , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Oeser , Pekka Enberg , linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Jan Engelhardt , Greg KH , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , David Woodhouse To: Jamie Lokier Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20070516113434.GC20482@mail.shareable.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-mtd-bounces@lists.infradead.org Errors-To: linux-mtd-bounces+gldm-linux-mtd-36=gmane.org+gldm-linux-mtd-36=gmane.org@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-fsdevel.vger.kernel.org T24gV2VkLCAyMDA3LTA1LTE2IGF0IDEyOjM0ICswMTAwLCBKYW1pZSBMb2tpZXIgd3JvdGU6Cj4g SsO2cm4gRW5nZWwgd3JvdGU6Cj4gPiBPbiBXZWQsIDE2IE1heSAyMDA3IDEyOjU0OjE0ICswODAw LCBEYXZpZCBXb29kaG91c2Ugd3JvdGU6Cj4gPiA+IFBlcnNvbmFsbHkgSSdkIGp1c3QgZ28gZm9y ICdKRkZTMycuIEFmdGVyIGFsbCwgaXQgaGFzIGEgYmV0dGVyIGNsYWltIHRvCj4gPiA+IHRoZSBu YW1lIHRoYW4gZWl0aGVyIG9mIGl0cyBwcmVkZWNlc3NvcnMgOikKPiA+IAo+ID4gRGlkIHlvdSBl dmVyIHNlZSBha3BtJ3MgZmFjaWFsIGV4cHJlc3Npb24gd2hlbiBoZSB0cmllZCB0byBwcm9ub3Vu Y2UKPiA+ICJKRkZTMiI/ICA7KQo+IAo+IEpGRlMzIGlzIGEgZ29vZCwgbWVhbmluZ2Z1bCBuYW1l IHRvIGFueW9uZSBmYW1pbGlhciB3aXRoIEpGRlMyLgo+IAo+IEJ1dCBpZiBha3BtIGNhbid0IHBy b25vdW5jZSBpdCwgaG93IGFib3V0IEZGRlMgZm9yIGZhc3RlciBmbGFzaAo+IGZpbGVzeXN0ZW0u Li4uIDstKQoKVGhlIHByb2JsZW0gaXMgdGhhdCBKRkZTMiB3aWxsIGFsd2F5cyBiZSBmYXN0ZXIg aW4gdGVybXMgb2YgSS9PIHNwZWVkCmFueXdheSwganVzdCBiZWNhdXNlIGl0IGRvZXMgbm90IGhh dmUgdG8gbWFpbnRhaW4gb24tZmxhc2ggaW5kZXhpbmcKZGF0YSBzdHJ1Y3R1cmVzLiBCdXQgeWVz LCBpdCBpcyBzbG93IGluIG1vdW50IGFuZCBpbiBidWlsZGluZyBiaWcKaW5vZGVzLCBzbyB0aGUg ImZhc3RlciIgaXMgY29uZnVzaW5nLgoKLS0gCkJlc3QgcmVnYXJkcywKQXJ0ZW0gQml0eXV0c2tp eSAo0JHQuNGC0Y7RhtC60LjQuSDQkNGA0YLRkdC8KQoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpMaW51eCBNVEQgZGlzY3Vzc2lvbiBtYWls aW5nIGxpc3QKaHR0cDovL2xpc3RzLmluZnJhZGVhZC5vcmcvbWFpbG1hbi9saXN0aW5mby9saW51 eC1tdGQvCg==