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From: Karl MacMillan <kmacmill@redhat.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	jjohansen@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [AppArmor 38/45] AppArmor: Module and LSM hooks
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:17:17 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1181625438.18618.9.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070612153431.GB14397@sergelap.austin.ibm.com>

On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 10:34 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Stephen Smalley (sds@tycho.nsa.gov):

[...]

> > 
> > If we added support for named type transitions to SELinux, as proposed
> > earlier by Kyle Moffett during this discussion, wouldn't that address
> > that issue without needing a DTE-like approach?  The concept is to add
> 
> Haven't read his message, but based on what you laid out here sure, that
> sounds good.  It still, like my dte approach, might have some trouble
> with the wildcard/regex rules AA allows.  And while it might perfectly
> reproduce my original DTE behavior, I don't think it does what AA wants
> on bind mounts.  (Whether what AA wants for bind mounts makes sense I'm
> still not convinced, especially with user mounts coming soon (or already
> here?), but I'm staying out of that discussion for now)
> 
> > the last component name as a further input to the labeling decision for
> > new files, in addition to the existing use of the creating process'
> > label, the parent directory label, and the kind of file.  Then, you
> > could have something like:
> > type_transition <domain> var_log_hosts_t:file "messages" messages_t;
> > 
> > The last component name is already available, so that doesn't require
> > any changes to LSM, and it would be a straightforward extension of
> > SELinux to support the above - it doesn't change the model at all, just
> > adds a further input to the new file labeling logic.
> 
> And eliminates the need for restorecond?
> 

Unlikely in the short term - restorecond is also used to reset contexts
on critical files in /etc that might loose the context because tools
used to update them are not correctly preserving contexts
(e.g., /etc/mtab, etc/resolv.conf).

Actually - this whole notion restorecond as a critical component of
SELinux because of a "new file problem" is pretty overblown. The default
config file ships with:

/etc/resolv.conf
/etc/samba/secrets.tdb
/etc/mtab
/var/run/utmp
/var/log/wtmp
~/public_html
~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so

So the only things that would be helped by type_transition rules with a 
name component would be public_html and libflashplayer.so.

Karl


  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-12 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 265+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-14 11:06 [AppArmor 00/45] AppArmor security module overview jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 01/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_create LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 02/45] Pass struct path down to remove_suid and children jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 03/45] Add a vfsmount parameter to notify_change() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 04/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_setattr LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 05/45] Add struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_mkdir() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 06/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_mkdir LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 07/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_mknod() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 08/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_mknod LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 09/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_symlink() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 10/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_symlink LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 11/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_readlink " jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 12/45] Add struct vfsmount parameters to vfs_link() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 13/45] Pass the struct vfsmounts to the inode_link LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 14/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_rmdir() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 15/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_rmdir LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 16/45] Call lsm hook before unhashing dentry in vfs_rmdir() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 17/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_unlink() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 18/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_unlink LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 19/45] Add struct vfsmount parameters to vfs_rename() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 20/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_rename LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 21/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_setxattr() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 22/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_setxattr LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 23/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_getxattr() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 24/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_getxattr LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 25/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_listxattr() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 26/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_listxattr LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 27/45] Add a struct vfsmount parameter to vfs_removexattr() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 28/45] Pass struct vfsmount to the inode_removexattr LSM hook jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 29/45] Fix __d_path() for lazy unmounts and make it unambiguous jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 30/45] Make d_path() consistent across mount operations jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 31/45] Add d_namespace_path() to compute namespace relative pathnames jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 32/45] Enable LSM hooks to distinguish operations on file descriptors from operations on pathnames jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 33/45] Pass struct file down the inode_*xattr security LSM hooks jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 34/45] Factor out sysctl pathname code jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 35/45] Allow permission functions to tell between parent and leaf checks jjohansen
2007-05-15  9:08   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 36/45] Export audit subsystem for use by modules jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 37/45] AppArmor: Main Part jjohansen
2007-05-15  9:12   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 38/45] AppArmor: Module and LSM hooks jjohansen
2007-05-15  9:14   ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-23 16:16     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-04 10:55       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 11:25         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-04 11:35           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 11:42             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-04 13:12               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 14:30                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-06 13:09                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-10 23:10                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-11 14:33                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-11 15:55                         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-11 19:02                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-12 13:00                             ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 15:34                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-12  5:17                                 ` Karl MacMillan [this message]
2007-06-12 19:00                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-12 13:13                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-12 23:50                         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-09 12:58                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-09 13:44                     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-12 13:06                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation, pathname matching jjohansen
2007-05-15  9:20   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 21:03     ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-06 13:26       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-06 17:32         ` Greg KH
2007-06-09 23:47           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-08 22:03         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-09  0:17           ` Greg KH
2007-06-09  1:06             ` david
2007-06-09  2:01               ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation,pathname matching Tetsuo Handa
2007-06-09  3:25                 ` Sean
2007-06-09  4:56                   ` david
2007-06-09  5:10                     ` Sean
2007-06-09  5:38                       ` david
2007-06-09  5:44                         ` Sean
2007-06-09  7:04                           ` david
2007-06-09  7:28                             ` Sean
2007-06-09  8:03                               ` david
2007-06-09  8:37                                 ` Sean
2007-06-14 17:01                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-09 11:26                               ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading andmanipulation,pathname matching Tetsuo Handa
2007-06-09 11:35                                 ` Sean
2007-06-09 13:41                                   ` david
2007-06-09 18:37                               ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation,pathname matching Casey Schaufler
2007-06-15 13:36                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-10  8:34               ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation, pathname matching Pavel Machek
2007-06-10  9:04                 ` david
2007-06-10 20:04                   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-10 20:51                     ` Crispin Cowan
2007-06-11  6:45                       ` david
2007-06-11  8:29                         ` Sean
2007-06-11  9:33                           ` david
2007-06-11 11:34                             ` Sean
2007-06-11 11:00                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-10 21:05                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-11  6:27                     ` david
2007-06-14 19:16                       ` Jack Stone
2007-06-15  0:18                         ` david
2007-06-15 17:01                           ` Greg KH
2007-06-12 17:03                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-12 17:03                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-09  5:18             ` david
2007-06-09  5:46               ` Sean
2007-06-09  7:13                 ` david
2007-06-09  7:36                   ` Sean
2007-06-09  8:06                     ` david
2007-06-09  8:10                       ` Sean
2007-06-09 15:17                         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-09 16:36                           ` Sean
2007-06-09 15:33                   ` Joshua Brindle
2007-06-09 16:18               ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-09 16:46                 ` david
2007-06-09 17:06                   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-09 17:32                     ` david
2007-06-09 19:50                       ` Kyle Moffett
2007-06-09 20:43                         ` david
2007-06-10 20:54               ` Crispin Cowan
2007-06-10 21:17                 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-06-09 15:05             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-10 17:09             ` Crispin Cowan
2007-06-15 16:50               ` Greg KH
2007-06-15 18:01                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-15 18:15                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-15 20:43                     ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-15 21:14                       ` Greg KH
2007-06-15 21:28                         ` Karl MacMillan
2007-06-15 21:44                           ` Greg KH
2007-06-15 22:24                             ` Karl MacMillan
2007-06-18 13:33                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-21 15:54                                 ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-15 22:37                         ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-18 12:47                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-15 20:06                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-15 21:11                   ` Greg KH
2007-06-15 21:42                     ` James Morris
2007-06-15 23:50                       ` Greg KH
2007-06-16  1:21                         ` James Morris
2007-06-16  2:57                           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-16  3:39                             ` James Morris
2007-06-18  1:51                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-18 11:29                                 ` Joshua Brindle
2007-06-16  4:23                           ` Greg KH
2007-06-15 23:30                     ` Crispin Cowan
2007-06-15 23:49                       ` Greg KH
2007-06-16  0:01                         ` david
2007-06-16  0:20                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-22  9:59                             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-16  0:31                           ` Greg KH
2007-06-16  8:09                             ` david
2007-06-16 16:24                               ` Greg KH
2007-06-16  1:41                           ` James Morris
2007-06-16  0:18                         ` Seth Arnold
2007-06-16  0:29                           ` Greg KH
2007-06-16  1:46                           ` James Morris
2007-06-16  2:19                           ` James Morris
2007-06-18 18:48                         ` Crispin Cowan
2007-06-21 16:01                         ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-06-21 17:59                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-16  0:02                       ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 16:08                         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 16:08                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 18:33                           ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 19:24                             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 19:24                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 19:42                               ` James Morris
2007-06-21 19:54                                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 19:54                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 20:59                                   ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-21 21:17                                     ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 21:17                                       ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22  0:16                                       ` Joshua Brindle
2007-06-22  0:19                                         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22  0:19                                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22  0:28                                         ` david
2007-06-22  3:45                                           ` Joshua Brindle
2007-06-22  5:07                                             ` david
2007-06-22 10:49                                             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 10:49                                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 11:19                                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-22 11:34                                         ` Neil Brown
2007-06-22 11:48                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-22 11:37                                         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 11:37                                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 12:41                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-22 12:54                                             ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 12:54                                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 13:22                                               ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-22 14:49                                                 ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-22 16:06                                             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-06-22  0:34                                     ` Chris Mason
2007-06-22  1:06                                       ` James Morris
2007-06-22  4:17                                         ` Crispin Cowan
2007-06-22 12:20                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-24 20:45                                             ` David Wagner
2007-06-22  7:40                                         ` John Johansen
2007-06-22 12:17                                         ` Chris Mason
2007-06-22 13:48                                           ` James Morris
2007-06-22 14:02                                             ` Chris Mason
2007-06-22 14:23                                               ` James Morris
2007-06-22 17:30                                                 ` Chris Mason
2007-06-23  0:11                                                   ` Chris Wright
2007-06-24  0:10                                                     ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-06-24  0:40                                                       ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-06-26 21:01                                                     ` Crispin Cowan
2007-06-24 20:43                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-22 18:12                                                 ` david
2007-06-25 15:14                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-25 21:02                                                 ` david
2007-06-26  8:50                                                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-26  8:50                                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-24 21:16                                             ` David Wagner
2007-06-24 21:57                                               ` david
2007-06-28 18:13                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-28 18:19                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-24 21:45                                             ` David Wagner
2007-06-28 18:31                                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-24 21:20                                         ` David Wagner
2007-06-22  8:06                                     ` John Johansen
2007-06-22 11:53                                       ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-22 12:42                                         ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 12:42                                           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-22 12:46                                           ` Stephen Smalley
2007-06-22 18:35                                         ` david
2007-06-24 20:48                                         ` David Wagner
2007-06-24 20:35                                     ` David Wagner
2007-06-21 20:07                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-21 20:21                                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 20:21                                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 23:25                                   ` John Johansen
2007-06-21 19:30                             ` david
2007-06-21 19:35                               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2007-06-21 19:52                               ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-16  0:48                       ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation,pathname matching Tetsuo Handa
2007-06-19 15:25                         ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-15 23:33                   ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation, pathname matching Seth Arnold
2007-06-15 23:39                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-16  0:07                       ` Seth Arnold
2007-06-16 15:44                 ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation,pathname matching Tetsuo Handa
2007-06-16 16:26                   ` Greg KH
2007-06-16 16:45                     ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading andmanipulation,pathname matching Tetsuo Handa
2007-06-11 15:16           ` [AppArmor 39/45] AppArmor: Profile loading and manipulation, pathname matching Stephen Smalley
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 40/45] AppArmor: all the rest jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 41/45] Add AppArmor LSM to security/Makefile jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 42/45] AppArmor: add lock subtyping so lockdep does not report false dependencies jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 43/45] Switch to vfs_permission() in do_path_lookup() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 44/45] Switch to vfs_permission() in sys_fchdir() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` [AppArmor 45/45] Fix file_permission() jjohansen
2007-05-14 11:06 ` jjohansen
2007-05-14 13:50 ` [AppArmor 00/45] AppArmor security module overview John Johansen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-26  6:40 jjohansen
2007-10-26  6:41 ` [AppArmor 38/45] AppArmor: Module and LSM hooks jjohansen

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