From: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>,
linux-pm <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Rafael J.Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] Re: Hibernation considerations
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:17:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1185070634.3517.11.camel@caritas-dev.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0707200845200.19248@asgard.lang.hm>
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 08:48 -0700, david@lang.hm wrote:
> > Backuping target memory before kexec and restoring it after kexec is
> > planed feature for kexec jump. But I will work on image writing/reading
> > first.
>
> if we can get a list of what memory is safe to backup/restore then the
> reading/writing of the image should be able to be done in userspace.
The backup/restore here has nothing to do with the read/write of the
image. It means instead of preserving memory for a new kernel like that
of crash-dump, the memory for a new kernel is backupped before kexec and
restored after kexec by the kexec kernel.
> > If the "scatter copy" is replaced by "scatter swap", we need not the
> > inverse list, and the state of kexeced kernel can be backuped too. There
> > are "scatter copy" support in normal kexec implementation in
> > "relocate_kernel".
>
> what do you mean by "scatter swap"
copy: dest=src
swap: tmp=dest; dest=src; src=tmp
If memory is swapped, no information is lost, both that of kexec kernel
and kexeced kernel.
Best Regards,
Huang, Ying
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2007-07-15 12:33 Hibernation considerations Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 12:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 12:51 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 12:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-07-15 12:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-07-15 22:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 22:27 ` david
2007-07-15 22:27 ` david
2007-07-17 17:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-07-17 17:49 ` david
2007-07-17 17:49 ` david
2007-07-17 17:40 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-07-29 6:53 ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-07-29 9:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-29 9:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-05 19:56 ` encrypted hibernation (was Re: Hibernation considerations) Pavel Machek
2007-08-11 23:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-08-12 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-12 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-08-18 19:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-08-18 19:37 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-08-21 7:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-21 7:29 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-13 2:30 ` Michael Chang
2007-08-13 4:53 ` alon.barlev
2007-08-13 4:53 ` alon.barlev
2007-08-13 2:30 ` Michael Chang
2007-08-11 23:43 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2007-08-05 19:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-29 6:53 ` Hibernation considerations Vojtech Pavlik
2007-07-15 22:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 15:10 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 15:35 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-15 17:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 17:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 15:35 ` jimmy bahuleyan
2007-07-15 16:29 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 17:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 17:40 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-15 23:28 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:28 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:58 ` david
2007-07-15 23:58 ` david
2007-07-16 5:02 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-16 5:02 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-16 6:49 ` david
2007-07-16 6:49 ` david
2007-07-16 13:32 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-16 13:32 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-17 4:33 ` david
2007-07-17 4:33 ` david
2007-07-17 12:08 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-17 14:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 14:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 15:23 ` david
2007-07-17 15:23 ` david
2007-07-17 12:08 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-16 14:53 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-16 14:53 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-16 16:51 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-16 16:51 ` Al Boldi
2007-07-17 4:37 ` david
2007-07-17 4:37 ` david
2007-07-15 19:52 ` david
2007-07-15 19:52 ` david
2007-07-15 16:29 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 20:13 ` david
2007-07-15 20:13 ` david
2007-07-15 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 22:47 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-15 22:42 ` david
2007-07-15 22:42 ` david
2007-07-15 23:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-15 23:38 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-16 14:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-16 15:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 15:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-16 14:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-15 23:41 ` david
2007-07-15 23:41 ` david
2007-07-16 14:21 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-16 14:21 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 4:45 ` david
2007-07-17 4:45 ` david
2007-07-17 14:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 14:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 14:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 15:29 ` david
2007-07-17 15:29 ` david
2007-07-17 16:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 17:06 ` david
2007-07-17 19:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 19:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:18 ` david
2007-07-17 20:18 ` david
2007-07-17 20:39 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:39 ` david
2007-07-17 20:39 ` david
2007-07-17 20:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:39 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:53 ` david
2007-07-17 20:53 ` david
2007-07-17 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:42 ` david
2007-07-17 21:42 ` david
2007-07-17 21:53 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:53 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 10:25 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-21 15:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 15:35 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 17:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-21 19:35 ` david
2007-07-21 19:35 ` david
2007-07-21 19:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-21 19:49 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-21 22:14 ` david
2007-07-21 22:14 ` david
2007-07-21 17:56 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-21 10:25 ` Pavel Machek
2007-08-01 16:58 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-08-01 16:58 ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-07-17 20:24 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:24 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:44 ` david
2007-07-17 20:44 ` david
2007-07-17 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 17:06 ` david
2007-07-17 16:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 16:09 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 19:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 16:09 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 18:32 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-17 20:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:34 ` david
2007-07-17 20:34 ` david
2007-07-17 20:54 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:04 ` david
2007-07-17 21:04 ` david
2007-07-17 20:54 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:17 ` david
2007-07-17 21:17 ` david
2007-07-17 21:27 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:27 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:27 ` david
2007-07-17 21:27 ` david
2007-07-17 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:34 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:34 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:37 ` david
2007-07-17 20:37 ` david
2007-07-17 20:56 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 20:56 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-17 21:06 ` david
2007-07-17 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:40 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:06 ` david
2007-07-17 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 21:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-17 20:27 ` david
2007-07-17 20:27 ` david
2007-07-17 21:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
[not found] ` <ea7a437ca4038d408ac544bbc3c2434a@bga.com>
2007-07-19 17:31 ` [linux-pm] " david
2007-07-20 14:24 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 15:44 ` david
2007-07-19 20:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-19 23:07 ` david
2007-07-20 11:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 15:35 ` david
2007-07-20 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 16:56 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 17:31 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 17:31 ` [linux-pm] " Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 21:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 19:26 ` david
2007-07-20 19:26 ` [linux-pm] " david
2007-07-20 21:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:28 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:33 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 21:33 ` [linux-pm] " Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 22:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 22:19 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 16:56 ` Milton Miller
[not found] ` <20070720152744.GH20529@grifter.jdc.home>
2007-07-20 15:36 ` [linux-pm] " david
2007-07-20 21:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:39 ` david
2007-07-20 22:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 22:39 ` david
2007-07-20 16:08 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 16:08 ` [linux-pm] " Milton Miller
2007-07-20 16:20 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 16:20 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-20 17:32 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 17:32 ` [linux-pm] " Milton Miller
2007-07-20 18:17 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 18:17 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-20 19:08 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 19:37 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 19:37 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-20 19:08 ` Milton Miller
2007-07-20 20:03 ` [linux-pm] " Oliver Neukum
2007-07-20 20:12 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 20:12 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-20 22:25 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 14:23 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-23 20:05 ` Towards eliminating the freezer Alan Stern
2007-07-24 8:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-24 14:27 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 14:27 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 8:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-24 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 9:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 14:29 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 15:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 15:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 16:06 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 16:06 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 20:24 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 20:24 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 21:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 22:14 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-25 12:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-25 12:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-26 19:32 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-26 20:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-24 22:14 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 14:29 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 20:05 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 14:23 ` Re: Hibernation considerations Oliver Neukum
2007-08-01 9:34 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2007-08-03 3:50 ` david
2007-08-03 3:50 ` david
2007-08-01 9:34 ` Pavel Machek
2007-07-20 22:25 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:35 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-20 20:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2007-07-20 20:31 ` david
2007-07-20 20:31 ` [linux-pm] " david
2007-07-20 21:24 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:24 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-20 21:34 ` david
2007-07-20 22:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 22:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:34 ` david
2007-07-20 21:37 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 21:37 ` [linux-pm] " Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 22:35 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-20 22:35 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-20 22:43 ` david
2007-07-21 5:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-21 5:21 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-07-21 14:10 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-21 14:10 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-22 3:43 ` david
2007-07-22 3:43 ` [linux-pm] " david
2007-07-22 16:00 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-22 16:00 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-22 21:50 ` david
2007-07-22 21:50 ` [linux-pm] " david
2007-07-23 15:19 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 15:19 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-23 19:01 ` david
2007-07-23 20:22 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-23 20:22 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-24 13:26 ` Huang, Ying
2007-07-24 13:26 ` [linux-pm] " Huang, Ying
2007-07-24 14:50 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-24 14:50 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-23 19:01 ` david
2007-07-20 22:43 ` david
2007-07-20 22:48 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 22:48 ` [linux-pm] " Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-20 21:02 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-20 21:02 ` [linux-pm] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-21 11:44 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-21 11:44 ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-21 12:43 ` Nigel Cunningham
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2007-07-21 13:56 ` Alan Stern
2007-07-21 13:56 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2007-07-21 16:13 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 16:13 ` [linux-pm] " Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-07-21 18:12 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-07-21 18:12 ` [linux-pm] " Miklos Szeredi
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2007-07-21 19:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-21 22:21 ` [linux-pm] " Nigel Cunningham
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2007-07-22 20:09 ` Alan Stern
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2007-07-22 22:42 ` Nigel Cunningham
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2007-07-22 23:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-07-22 23:18 ` Nigel Cunningham
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