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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Natalie Protasevich <protasnb@gmail.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: AMD64 dma_alloc_coherent crashes on non PCI device (was SATA open bugs)
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:26:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1186701992.3426.19.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070810001713.3e098338@the-village.bc.nu>

On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 00:17 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > If the device you're passing has a NULL dma_mask pointer that means the
> > platform hasn't set it up correctly for dma ... and that's the
> 
> Well it may not do DMA. 

Unfortunately, I don't think we've considered that possibility in the
integration of the dma API and generic devices.

> > underlying problem (although it's not necessarily a libata problem): you
> > can't call dma_ operations on a device that hasn't been set up in the
> > platform for it.
> 
> Right.
> 
> Ok so what is the right way given a random *correctly* set up device that
> may or may not be DMA capable to determine this. Its an arbitary device
> pointer for an arbitary device class on an arbitary platform which may or
> may not support DMA for this device class ?
> 
> Can I called dma_alloc_coherent and get a NULL back or do we need a
> device_can_dma() check in each platform ?

Fundamentally it's a different question.  The dma_alloc is just saying
can you set up a coherent memory area that this device can reach.  Often
the platform cannot necessarily discover this.  I'd say the best signal
is that the driver has called dma_set_mask(dev, DMA_MASK_NONE) (which
isn't defined yet). So the platform has a signal that the device isn't
DMA capable.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-09 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-08 22:31 SATA open bugs Natalie Protasevich
2007-08-09  2:17 ` Mark Lord
2007-08-09  3:58 ` Tejun Heo
2007-08-09  5:44   ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-09 11:17   ` Matt Sealey
2007-08-09 13:53   ` AMD64 dma_alloc_coherent crashes on non PCI device (was SATA open bugs) Alan Cox
2007-08-09 17:05     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 17:21       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-09 17:23         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 17:53           ` Alan Cox
2007-08-09 19:28             ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 22:34               ` Alan Cox
2007-08-09 22:43                 ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 23:14                   ` Alan Cox
2007-08-09 23:08                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 23:11                     ` AMD64 dma_alloc_coherent crashes on non PCI device (was SATA open bugs) II Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 23:24                       ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10  9:43                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-10 13:54                           ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 14:52                             ` James Bottomley
2007-08-10 16:58                               ` Alan Cox
2007-08-10 18:28                                 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-10 20:27                                   ` Andi Kleen
2007-09-16 17:12                                     ` James Bottomley
2007-09-16 17:15                                       ` [PATCH 1/1] introduce DMA_MASK_NONE as a signal for unable to do DMA James Bottomley
2007-09-16 17:16                                       ` [Patch 2/2] pcmcia: use DMA_MASK_NONE for the default for all pcmcia devices James Bottomley
2007-08-09 20:19             ` AMD64 dma_alloc_coherent crashes on non PCI device (was SATA open bugs) James Bottomley
2007-08-09 22:37               ` Alan Cox
2007-08-09 22:53                 ` James Bottomley
2007-08-09 23:17                   ` Alan Cox
2007-08-09 23:26                     ` James Bottomley [this message]
2007-08-09  5:28 ` SATA open bugs James Bottomley

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