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From: Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jon Masters <jonathan@jonmasters.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Giridhar Pemmasani <pgiri@yahoo.com>,
	rms@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:02:35 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1201658555.24898.27.camel@dv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080130002514.GA1802@does.not.exist>

On Wed, 2008-01-30 at 02:25 +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:

> > > It is interesting that someone posting with an @gnu.org address claims
> > > that dynamic linking of not GPLv2 compatible code into GPLv2 code was
> > > not a copyright violation.
> > 
> > No, I'm representing myself only.  I don't think you represent all
> > kernel developers when posting from the kernel.org address.
> 
> I'm not using my @kernel.org address except for kernel issues and I'm 
> not using a company address in linux-kernel discussions.
> 
> Mailing lists of a project or a company are something completely 
> different from using a project or company address outside of the 
> project.

OK, I'll think about it.

> > I, for one, would welcome an informed position of the FSF.  It may have
> > interesting implications for Wine, ReactOS, mplayer, qemu, Java and many
> > other programs loading non-free compiled code at the run time.
> 
> Wine is licenced under the terms of the LGPL.
> 
> ReactOS is licenced under the terms of the GPL with a licence 
> exception for runtime linking of non-free modules.
> 
> QEMU is licenced under the terms of the GPL with a licence exception for 
> runtime linking with libqemu.a.
> 
> GNU classpath (and libgcj) are licenced under the terms of the GPL with 
> a licence exception for runtime linking with it.
> 
> As you can see, all of the above explicitely address this issue.
> 
> The only program from your list that has a fishy licencing is mplayer.

Thanks for the detailed analysis!

Anyway, as far as I know, copyright covers copying of works, and dynamic
linking never creates anything suitable for copying.  The "derived work"
stays in memory, just like it does when a proprietary program runs on
top of the Linux kernel.  Memory dumps might be illegal to distribute
though.

I'm not a lawyer and the above is not a legal advice.  I don't represent
Free Software Foundation.

-- 
Regards,
Pavel Roskin

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-30  2:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-29 21:22 ndiswrapper and GPL-only symbols redux Pavel Roskin
2008-01-29 22:27 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-29 22:35   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2008-01-29 23:21   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  0:25     ` Jon Masters
2008-01-29 22:45 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 23:56   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  3:24     ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-30  5:07       ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  5:26         ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  6:03           ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-30  6:12             ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-29 22:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-29 23:04   ` Alan Cox
2008-01-29 23:06   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-29 23:25   ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30  0:35     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30  0:46       ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30  1:44         ` Daniel Hazelton
2008-01-30  7:38         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-01-30  8:45           ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 21:00           ` David Schwartz
2008-01-29 23:44   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  0:25     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30  2:02       ` Pavel Roskin [this message]
2008-01-30 11:24         ` Rusty Russell
2008-01-30 17:54         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 18:15           ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-30 18:45             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 19:43               ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-30 20:26                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-30 21:09                   ` Adrian Bunk
     [not found]     ` <E1JKJvh-0006P8-Pi@fencepost.gnu.org>
2008-02-01  5:08       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-02-06 10:50         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-06 11:11           ` Xavier Bestel
2008-02-06 11:38           ` David Schwartz
2008-02-06 15:10             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-30  0:48   ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2008-01-30 17:54     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 18:26       ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-30 18:54         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-30 19:36           ` Lee Revell
2008-01-30 20:28             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31  1:00               ` Michael Gerdau
2008-02-05 13:00                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-02-04 12:42             ` Alan Cox
2008-02-04 13:56               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-01-31  3:25       ` David Newall
2008-01-31 15:20         ` Chris Friesen
2008-01-30  0:20 ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  0:35   ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-30  0:48     ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  1:33       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  1:48   ` Pavel Roskin
2008-01-30  2:08     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-30  5:04     ` Jon Masters
2008-01-30  5:38       ` Zan Lynx
2008-01-30  7:40         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-01-30  8:54           ` Måns Rullgård
2008-01-30 20:50       ` David Schwartz

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