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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: ltuikov@yahoo.com
Cc: linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-ide <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Accardi, Kristen C" <kristen.c.accardi@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] enclosure: add support for enclosure services
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:29:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1202243385.3133.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <471033.35291.qm@web31813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 11:33 -0800, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> > Wrong ... we don't export non-SCSI devices as SCSI
> > (with the single and
> > rather annoying exception of ATA via SAT).
> 
> I didn't say you should do that.  I had already
> mentioned that vendors export such controls
> as either enclosure or processor type devices,
> and this is why I told you that that is what
> needs to be exported, which incidentally is
> a device node of that type.
> 
> Without a common usage model already in the kernel
> to abstract (e.g. sd for block device, since you brought
> that up) your abstraction seems redundant and arbitrary.

Exactly, so the first patch in this series (a while ago now) was a
common usage model abstraction of enclosures, and the second was an
implementation in terms of SES.   I will do one in terms of SGPIO as
well ... assuming I ever find a SGPIO enclosure ...

> Your kernel code already uses READ DIAGNOSTIC, etc,
> and I'd rather leave that to user-space.

You can do it in user space as well.  It's just a bit difficult to get
information out of a SES enclosure without using it, and getting some of
the information is a requirement of the abstraction.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2008-02-05 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-02-03 21:40 [PATCH] enclosure: add support for enclosure services James Bottomley
2008-02-03 22:03 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-02-04  0:16   ` James Bottomley
2008-02-06  0:12     ` Andrew Morton
2008-02-06  2:57       ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05  0:32 ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-05  0:41   ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05  2:01     ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-05  2:14       ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05  3:28         ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-05  4:37           ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05  5:35             ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-05 15:01               ` James Bottomley
2008-02-05 19:33                 ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-05 20:29                   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2008-02-05 20:39                     ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-12 18:22       ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-02-12 18:45         ` James Bottomley
2008-02-12 19:07           ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-02-12 19:28             ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 17:45               ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
2008-02-13 18:17                 ` James Bottomley
2008-02-16 12:44                 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-13  9:48           ` Luben Tuikov
2008-02-13 14:08             ` James Smart
2008-02-13 16:04               ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 16:22                 ` James Smart
2008-02-13 16:43                   ` James Bottomley
2008-02-13 16:49                     ` James Smart
2008-02-12 19:45         ` Luben Tuikov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-13 11:15 Luben Tuikov

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