From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1JP3kr-0007Wm-7Q for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:33 -0500 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JP3kq-0007Wh-LH for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:32 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JP3km-0007Vt-5z for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:32 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JP3km-0007Vq-1d for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:28 -0500 Received: from c60.cesmail.net ([216.154.195.49]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JP3kl-0008Vp-Na for grub-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:27 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.cesmail.net) ([192.168.1.81]) by c60.cesmail.net with ESMTP; 12 Feb 2008 17:37:27 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.21] (static-72-92-88-10.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [72.92.88.10]) by relay.cesmail.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F67619058 for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:26 -0500 (EST) From: Pavel Roskin To: The development of GRUB 2 In-Reply-To: <20080212113451.GB19144@thorin> References: <20080212005113.nlirwi2ko4gkg80s@webmail.spamcop.net> <20080212113451.GB19144@thorin> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:26 -0500 Message-Id: <1202855846.20992.12.camel@dv> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 (2.12.3-1.fc8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Rename update-grub to grub-update? X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:37:32 -0000 On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 12:34 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 12:51:13AM -0500, Pavel Roskin wrote: > > Hello! > > > > All grub binaries installed in $prefix/bin and $prefix/sbin start with > > "grub-" except mbchk and update-grub. mbchk is probably not meant to > > be grub specific, but update-grub is. > > > > I think it would be logical to rename update-grub to grub-update. > > Objections? > > I picked this name for historical reasons, since it was aimed at replacing > a Debian-specific script that performed the same functionality. Fedora has grubby, which manages not only GRUB configuration, but also configuration files for lilo, elilo and yaboot. I never needed to run it manually. I expect it to support GRUB 2 when it's adopted by Fedora. I would actually prefer to avoid outright replacement of an existing distribution-specific tool. Debian could continue installing update-grub, perhaps as a wrapper for grub-update or whatever we call our utility. > Calling it "update-grub" has a big advantage: for many GRUB Legacy users, > when seeing a script called like this they will instantly know what it > does. I think grub-update is just as descriptive, and grub-update-config even more so. I don't think Debian users actually need to run update-grub manually. Any good distribution should provide /sbin/installkernel, which would be run when a new kernel is being installed. > That aside, I agree the name is quite unfortunate. What would you think of > postponing this untill GRUB Legacy has been replaced? It's already a big leap > to migrate from GRUB Legacy to GRUB 2; I suggest we don't make it bigger yet. I don't insist on the change. But please consider my arguments. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin