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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "LKML," <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Poor PostgreSQL scaling on Linux 2.6.25-rc5 (vs 2.6.22)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:58:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1205308704.8514.197.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803121221.37234.nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>

On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 12:21 +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> (Back onto lkml)
> 
> On Tuesday 11 March 2008 23:02, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > another thing to try would be to increase:
> >
> >   /proc/sys/kernel/sched_migration_cost
> >
> > from its 500 usecs default to a few msecs ?
> 
> This doesn't really help either (at 10ms).
> 
> (For the record, I've tried turning SD_WAKE_IDLE, SD_WAKE_AFFINE
> on and off for each domain and that hasn't helped either).
> 
> I've also tried increasing sched_latency_ns as far as it can go.
> BTW. this is a pretty nasty behaviour if you ask my opinion. It
> starts *increasing* the number of involuntary context switches
> as resources get oversubscribed. That's completely unintuitive as
> far as I can see -- when we get overloaded, the obvious thing to
> do is try to increase efficiency, or at least try as hard as
> possible not to lose it. So context switches should be steady or
> decreasing as I add more processes to a runqueue.
> 
> It seems to max out at nearly 100 context switches per second,
> and this has actually shown to be too frequent for modern CPUs
> and big caches.
> 
> Increasing the tunable didn't help for this workload, but it really
> needs to be fixed so it doesn't decrease timeslices as the number
> of processes increases.

/proc/sys/kernel/sched_min_granularity_ns
/proc/sys/kernel/sched_latency_ns

period := max(latency, nr_running * min_granularity)
slice := period * w_{i} / W
W := \Sum_{i} w_{i}

So if you want to increase the slice length for loaded systems, up
min_granularity.


  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-12  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-11  6:49 Poor PostgreSQL scaling on Linux 2.6.25-rc5 (vs 2.6.22) Nick Piggin
2008-03-11  7:58 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-11  8:28   ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-11  9:59     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-11 21:07 ` Nicholas Miell
2008-03-11 21:34   ` Cyrus Massoumi
2008-03-11 23:12     ` Nicholas Miell
2008-03-11 23:42       ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-11 23:47       ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-03-12  9:00       ` Zhang, Yanmin
     [not found] ` <20080311102538.GA30551@elte.hu>
     [not found]   ` <20080311120230.GA5386@elte.hu>
2008-03-12  1:21     ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-12  7:58       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2008-03-17  0:44         ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-17  5:16           ` Ray Lee
2008-03-17  5:21             ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-17  7:19               ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-17  8:26                 ` Willy Tarreau
2008-03-17  8:54                   ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-17  9:28                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-03-17  9:56                       ` Nick Piggin
2008-03-17 10:16                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-17  5:34             ` Nick Piggin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-14 15:42 Xose Vazquez Perez

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