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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	Gary Hade <garyhade@us.ibm.com>, Thomas Meyer <thomas@m3y3r.de>,
	Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Natalie Protasevich <protasnb@gmail.com>,
	pm@debian.org
Subject: Re: [patch] pci: revert "PCI: remove transparent bridge sizing"
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:54:44 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1206572084.6926.34.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.00.0803261544210.2775@woody.linux-foundation.org>


On Wed, 2008-03-26 at 15:47 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > I was talking about IO not memory mostly here.
> 
> Yeah, low IO is also reserved on PC's (the low 256 IO ports are 
> motherboard resources and contain stuff like legacy DMA channel setup 
> etc)

Sure but can't that be in a kind of southbridge ? Like HT or PCIe
segment out of the CPU gets through a virtual P2P wich then hits the
"legacy" combo blob masquerading as a PCI device ? I remember seeing
that sort of thing in the past and I -think- it was some kind of x86
chipset hijacked on powerpc... 

> You could imagine having it behind a PCI bridge, but in practice it's 
> always on the NB/SB (and if you want to support some of the odder
> things 
> like the NMI reason and the i387 error ports, they pretty much have
> to 
> be - it would be insane to make a special PCI chips on a separate bus 
> that does things like that).

It's often all virtual inside a single chip.

Anyway, doesn't matter much at this stage I suppose, but it would be
nice to not use 0 as meaning invalid when sizing bridge windows and I'm
not sure at all about using "start" as an alignment indicator neither...
It will be much over-aligned in some cases, adding constraints to the
allocator where we didn't have any before no ?

Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-26 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-22  1:59 2.6.25-rc6-git6: Reported regressions from 2.6.24 Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22  2:52 ` Jeff Garzik
2008-03-22 11:11   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-22  5:33 ` Andrew Morton
2008-03-22 11:15   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-22 17:53     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 16:32 ` Heiko Carstens
2008-03-22 17:56   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 16:34 ` ohci1394 problem (MMIO broken) (was 2.6.25-rc6-git6: Reported regressions from 2.6.24) Stefan Richter
2008-03-22 17:24   ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-22 17:58     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-22 18:27     ` Stefan Richter
2008-03-22 19:02       ` Stefan Richter
2008-03-22 21:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-22 21:58           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-22 21:59           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-22 22:27             ` ohci1394 problem (MMIO broken) (was 2.6.25-rc6-git6: Reported regressions from 2.6.24) [Bug 10080] Stefan Richter
2008-03-22 23:28             ` ohci1394 problem (MMIO broken) (was 2.6.25-rc6-git6: Reported regressions from 2.6.24) Yinghai Lu
2008-03-22 23:31               ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-23  2:00                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-23  2:39                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-03-23  3:30                     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-22 23:01           ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-22 23:50             ` Stefan Richter
2008-03-23  6:35               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-24 19:34                 ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-24 19:47                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-24 20:17                     ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-24 20:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-26  3:39                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 23:25                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-24 19:58             ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-24 20:50               ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-24 21:24                 ` Stefan Richter
2008-03-24 21:47               ` Stefan Richter
2008-03-25  7:31                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-25 16:50                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-25 17:06                     ` Stefan Richter
2008-03-25 18:32                     ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-25 20:11                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-25 20:29                         ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-25 21:08                           ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-25 21:47                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-25 22:02                               ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-26 10:14                               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-03-26 12:17                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 13:54                                 ` [patch] pci: revert "PCI: remove transparent bridge sizing" Ingo Molnar
2008-03-26 17:45                                   ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-26 18:07                                   ` Gary Hade
2008-03-26 18:33                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-26 20:30                                       ` Gary Hade
2008-03-26 20:46                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-26 20:58                                           ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-03-26 21:41                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-26 21:57                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 22:07                                                 ` Alan Cox
2008-03-26 22:27                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 22:10                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-26 22:29                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 22:47                                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-26 22:54                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-03-26 23:18                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 22:30                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-26 22:31                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-26 22:47                                                   ` Alan Cox
2008-03-26 23:17                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 23:29                                               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-03-26 23:43                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-27 17:12                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-27 22:18                                                     ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-03-27 22:34                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-28 19:24                                                       ` Gary Hade
2008-03-28 20:46                                                         ` Gary Hade
2008-03-30 15:44                                                           ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-03-26 23:45                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26 21:29                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-03-26 11:12                           ` ohci1394 problem (MMIO broken) (was 2.6.25-rc6-git6: Reported regressions from 2.6.24) Ivan Kokshaysky
2008-03-25 21:02                         ` Thomas Meyer
2008-03-25 23:33           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-26  0:03             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-03-26  0:12               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-03-23 12:57 ` 2.6.25-rc6-git6: Reported regressions from 2.6.24 Alan Cox
2008-03-26 16:30 ` Ray Lee
2008-03-26 17:02   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-03-26 22:11   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-03-27 10:18   ` Romano Giannetti
2008-03-27 14:43     ` Ray Lee
2008-03-31 18:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-03-31 19:29   ` Mark Lord
2008-03-31 21:04     ` Tino Keitel
2008-03-31 21:26       ` Tino Keitel
2008-04-03 19:06     ` 2.6.25-rc7/8: Another resume regression Mark Lord
2008-04-05  2:27       ` Mark Lord
2008-04-07 10:51         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-07 15:51           ` Mark Lord
2008-04-07 17:40             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-08 15:35               ` Mark Lord

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