From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Nigel Cunningham <ncunningham@crca.org.au>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Alexey Starikovskiy <astarikovskiy@suse.de>,
David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8)
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:40:31 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1208133631.6958.85.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200804140207.19340.rjw@sisk.pl>
> Please have a look at this thread:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/3/21/322
> (in short, the reporter sees APM suspend breakage under stress, occuring
> because APM uses our suspending of devices without the freezer).
>
> It mostly appears to work without the freezer, but that's bacuse no one
> actually does things that might break it. I don't think we can rely on users
> being so kind to us forever. :-)
As far as I'm concerned, it's yet another case of the freezer papering
over a problem rather than fixing it properly.
If we're going to introduce new callbacks, we should have the right
semantic from day 1 -and- fix those problems, rather than going to the
same old recursive nonsensical arguments and do things to paper over
problems.
Ben.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-14 0:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-03 23:11 [PATCH 0/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-12 0:23 ` Greg KH
2008-04-13 13:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 13:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 13:33 ` [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 13:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 21:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 21:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 22:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 22:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 22:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 23:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 0:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 0:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 0:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 1:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 3:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 6:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14 7:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 7:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 7:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14 7:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 7:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 7:37 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14 6:43 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14 12:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 12:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 15:13 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 20:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 20:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 15:13 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 20:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14 20:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14 20:41 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-04-14 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 3:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 1:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 1:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-14 12:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 12:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 1:37 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-14 0:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-13 23:11 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-13 23:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-13 23:29 ` Nigel Cunningham
2008-04-13 23:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:23 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-13 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 23:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 23:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 0:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 0:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2008-04-14 0:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 0:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 0:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 0:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 0:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 0:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 0:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 0:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 23:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 23:23 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 4:47 ` David Brownell
2008-04-14 12:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 12:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 20:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 20:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 21:21 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 21:21 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2008-04-14 4:47 ` David Brownell
2008-04-14 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-14 20:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 20:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-14 20:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-14 20:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 22:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-04-13 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-15 19:27 ` patch pm-introduce-new-top-level-suspend-and-hibernation-callbacks.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-04-15 19:27 ` gregkh
2008-04-15 19:27 ` gregkh
2008-04-13 13:33 ` [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 13:33 ` [PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform bus type (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-13 13:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-15 19:27 ` patch pm-new-suspend-and-hibernation-callbacks-for-platform-bus-type.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-04-15 19:27 ` gregkh
2008-04-15 19:27 ` gregkh
2008-04-13 13:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI bus type (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-15 19:27 ` patch pm-new-suspend-and-hibernation-callbacks-for-pci-bus-type.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-04-15 19:27 ` gregkh
2008-04-15 19:27 ` gregkh
2008-04-29 22:26 ` PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI bus type Greg KH
2008-04-30 12:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-05-07 5:08 ` patch pm-new-suspend-and-hibernation-callbacks-for-pci-bus-type.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree gregkh
2008-05-07 5:08 ` gregkh
2008-04-30 12:09 ` PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI bus type Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-29 22:26 ` Greg KH
2008-04-13 13:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI bus type (rev. 4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-12 0:23 ` [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 7) Greg KH
2008-04-03 23:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for platform bus type (rev. 3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:13 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] PM: New suspend and hibernation callbacks for PCI " Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-04-03 23:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
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