From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8) Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:45:52 +1000 Message-ID: <1208205952.6958.174.camel@pasglop> References: <200804040111.15255.rjw@sisk.pl> <200804132339.45280.rjw@sisk.pl> <1208124646.6958.61.camel@pasglop> <200804140027.12161.rjw@sisk.pl> <1208126822.6958.63.camel@pasglop> <20080414105522.GA4716@ucw.cz> Reply-To: benh@kernel.crashing.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <20080414105522.GA4716@ucw.cz> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: linux-pm-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Errors-To: linux-pm-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org To: Pavel Machek Cc: Nigel Cunningham , LKML , Jesse Barnes , ACPI Devel Maling List , pm list , Alexey Starikovskiy , Andrew Morton List-Id: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:55 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Mon 2008-04-14 08:47:02, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > Well, I'm not sure and I'm not going to introduce the change right now, after > > > the paches have been included in -mm. > > > > > > That would require quite some changes in the core code that I'd prefer to > > > avoid for now. We can do something like this in a separate patch series after > > > the present one settles down a bit. > > > > I disagree. > > > > Doing it later would introduce yet another major semantic change. > > 'allow load_firmware from prepare that was not allowed before' is not 'major'. Having user space fully operating is major. Ben. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1761147AbYDNUtV (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:49:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752226AbYDNUtM (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:49:12 -0400 Received: from gate.crashing.org ([63.228.1.57]:56512 "EHLO gate.crashing.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751926AbYDNUtK (ORCPT ); Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:49:10 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] PM: Introduce new top level suspend and hibernation callbacks (rev. 8) From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt Reply-To: benh@kernel.crashing.org To: Pavel Machek Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Greg KH , pm list , ACPI Devel Maling List , Alan Stern , Len Brown , LKML , Alexey Starikovskiy , David Brownell , Oliver Neukum , Nigel Cunningham , Jesse Barnes , Andrew Morton In-Reply-To: <20080414105522.GA4716@ucw.cz> References: <200804040111.15255.rjw@sisk.pl> <200804132339.45280.rjw@sisk.pl> <1208124646.6958.61.camel@pasglop> <200804140027.12161.rjw@sisk.pl> <1208126822.6958.63.camel@pasglop> <20080414105522.GA4716@ucw.cz> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:45:52 +1000 Message-Id: <1208205952.6958.174.camel@pasglop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:55 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > On Mon 2008-04-14 08:47:02, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > > > > > Well, I'm not sure and I'm not going to introduce the change right now, after > > > the paches have been included in -mm. > > > > > > That would require quite some changes in the core code that I'd prefer to > > > avoid for now. We can do something like this in a separate patch series after > > > the present one settles down a bit. > > > > I disagree. > > > > Doing it later would introduce yet another major semantic change. > > 'allow load_firmware from prepare that was not allowed before' is not 'major'. Having user space fully operating is major. Ben.