From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754342AbYE1UiS (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 May 2008 16:38:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752738AbYE1UiH (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 May 2008 16:38:07 -0400 Received: from accolon.hansenpartnership.com ([76.243.235.52]:34761 "EHLO accolon.hansenpartnership.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752799AbYE1UiF (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 May 2008 16:38:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project From: James Bottomley To: Rik van Riel Cc: ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <20080528150837.685aa677@bree.surriel.com> References: <1211995212.3445.52.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080528150837.685aa677@bree.surriel.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 15:38:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1212007081.3445.82.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 (2.22.1-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, 2008-05-28 at 15:08 -0400, Rik van Riel wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2008 12:20:12 -0500 > James Bottomley wrote: > > > The most obvious solution might be to shut the Janitors project down, or > > at least more tightly manage its TODO list > > I've had some limited success with: > > http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelProjects > > One problem is that people end up beginning with a project but > for some reason stop working on it later - with no indication > as to whether the project ended up being too difficult, or they > ran out of time, or something else happened... Isn't the kernel mentors project supposed to help us at least get feedback on that problem (if not prevent it altogether)? James