From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1K2gyk-0000vB-K7 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:42 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2gyh-0000uX-JO for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:39 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K2gyf-0000uH-3t for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60026 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K2gye-0000uE-Un for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:36 -0400 Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:8945) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2gye-0006Mo-El for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:36 -0400 Received: from c60.cesmail.net ([216.154.195.49]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2gyd-0006zj-Nt for grub-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:23:35 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.cesmail.net) ([192.168.1.81]) by c60.cesmail.net with ESMTP; 01 Jun 2008 02:23:34 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.37] (pool-71-175-126-102.phlapa.east.verizon.net [71.175.126.102]) by relay.cesmail.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EF561905A for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 02:23:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Pavel Roskin To: The development of GRUB 2 In-Reply-To: <20080531095311.GE6619@thorin> References: <1212185676.18496.9.camel@dv> <20080531095311.GE6619@thorin> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:19:27 -0400 Message-Id: <1212301167.6853.20.camel@rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.1 (2.22.1-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) Subject: Re: Searching UUID on floppies X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:23:39 -0000 On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 11:53 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > Some of our commands use --no-floppy. Also supported in GRUB Legacy (by 'find' > or so, can't remember). Perhaps it's better to use that for consistency? It > is the floppy scan which everyone hates; for other devices I don't think > people will mind if GRUB spends a few ms on them. Sure, --no-floppy would be consistent with the installers, but it will take some effort to get right. Let's not forget CD floppy emulation, by the way. You wrote that sometimes a hard drive can be reported as a floppy. Perhaps we still want to search floppies as the last resort. Besides, I'd prefer to avoid floppy search is all "search" commands. I have a custom rule to boot another distro, and it uses "search" by label. I don't want to add --no-floppy to that command because it's an extra effort. It's not hard for GRUB to do things nicely without having users edit their custom rules. That's why I would prefer optimized search order. But I'm not strongly opposing --no-floppy as long as it's done right. We could also start search with the current drive and then go through the list of other drives, without changing anything else in the order. Most installations will rely on one disk. Spinning up more devices unnecessarily is not nice. -- Regards, Pavel Roskin