From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1K7HQ0-0008EJ-7g for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:06:48 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K7HPz-0008Dt-1X for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:06:47 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K7HPx-0008DS-Va for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:06:46 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59714 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K7HPx-0008DM-RT for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:06:45 -0400 Received: from c60.cesmail.net ([216.154.195.49]:57341) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K7HPx-0003po-Li for grub-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:06:45 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO relay.cesmail.net) ([192.168.1.81]) by c60.cesmail.net with ESMTP; 13 Jun 2008 18:06:46 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.21] (static-72-92-88-10.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [72.92.88.10]) by relay.cesmail.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF8B619058 for ; Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:06:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Pavel Roskin To: The development of GRUB 2 In-Reply-To: <4852EB6E.50005@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> References: <1213372559.29669.14.camel@dv> <4852CE60.1060605@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> <1213389635.22425.11.camel@dv> <4852EB6E.50005@isaac.cedarswampstudios.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:06:43 -0400 Message-Id: <1213394803.22425.45.camel@dv> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.2 (2.22.2-2.fc9) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. Subject: Re: Some concern about the journal support X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:06:47 -0000 On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 17:49 -0400, Isaac Dupree wrote: > true enough: grub's ext3 support is relatively unstable for now, so if I > use it I should be prepared to report problems and help debug them. > Partly I just get confused (although patches are frequently discussed on > the list) which patches have actually been applied to CVS, and whether > any of the *known* issues are still known to be unfixed in CVS. (That > is, I'm usually willing to be a tester, but it's generally not useful to > anyone to test things that are known to be broken) You may have two kinds of problems. If /boot/grub/core.img cannot be embedded in the first sectors of the drive and /boot/grub is on ext3, GRUB is unlikely to boot. There is a patch that is likely to fix it, but it wasn't applied. If /boot is on ext3 partition that wasn't cleanly unmounted, GRUB may fail to boot. This is less likely than it used to be, but it's still possible. It looks like some corner cases still need fixing. If /boot is on ext2 (i.e. there is no journal), no problems are expected. There are still things that need to be tested. You could try to create a small disk image that would exhibit problems with accessing the filesystem. Or you could check that the last patch by Bean would work if core.img is not embedded and the filesystem is heavily used (e.g. more that the journal size of data is written to the filesystem). Or if you don't like ext3 filesystem testing, put /boot on some other filesystem (I'm quite sure that reiserfs is broken, but the rest should be OK). -- Regards, Pavel Roskin