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From: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
To: Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>
Cc: jeffschroeder@computer.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: HP opensourced advfs from tru64 and what it means for btrfs
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:21:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1214245269.10187.587.camel@think.oraclecorp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080623145026.GA13310@2ka.mipt.ru>

On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 18:50 +0400, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 07:37:32AM -0700, Jeff Schroeder (jeffschroed@gmail.com) wrote:
> > http://advfs.sourceforge.net/ HP open sourced the advfs filesystem
> > from tru64 Unix today under the gplv2.
> 
> ...
>  
> > Would it make sense to look at using any of the code from this in
> > btrfs, or would it be easier to
> > re-implement it all over again? Even though filesystems ported from
> > other Posix operating systems to Linux (Ever looked at XFS code)
> > can be ugly, this might be a way to accelerate btrfs development.
> > If nothing else, it might be interesting to see how HP solved problems
> > btrfs will soon be solving.
> 
> Sure it is interesting as studing anything new, but there is nothing in
> advfs which can prevent btrfs from success. Virtually nothing.
> Advfs is quite old technology built on top of almost 20 years old ideas
> and hardware, while the former can still be (and likely is) valid,
> hardware made significant progress.

In general, the rules that make filesystems go haven't changed in a long
time.   Disks are slow, ram is faster, and cpu is both infinitely fast
and important to share with other things running on the hardware.

There is a great deal we can learn from any long standing FS in terms of
layout optimizations, allocation policies and ease of use.

Is there code we can lift 100% from advfs?  It is hard to say for sure,
but being able to copy policy and basic algorithms is definitely
important.

-chris



  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-23 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-23 14:37 HP opensourced advfs from tru64 and what it means for btrfs Jeff Schroeder
2008-06-23 14:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-23 18:21   ` Chris Mason [this message]
2008-06-23 18:45     ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2008-06-23 18:59       ` Chris Mason
2008-06-24 13:50   ` Chris Samuel

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