From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with archive (Exim 4.43) id 1KapkD-0007Ex-L0 for mharc-grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:37:50 -0400 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KapkB-0007Dk-NX for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:37:47 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kapk7-0007BQ-7G for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:37:46 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39132 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kapk6-0007BC-Iz for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:37:42 -0400 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.187]:62098) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kapk6-00009t-Hf for grub-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:37:42 -0400 Received: from [85.180.19.197] (e180019197.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.19.197]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKwtQ-1Kapjt2ngp-0005FX; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:37:30 +0200 From: Felix Zielcke To: The development of GRUB 2 In-Reply-To: References: <1220373834.6359.42.camel@fz.local> <1220375405.6359.45.camel@fz.local> <20080902192740.GD9070@thorin> <48BD977A.5090305@nic.fi> <20080902134732.1f1a0f04@gibibit.com> <1220425162.4164.12.camel@fz.local> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:37:28 +0200 Message-Id: <1220438248.4164.41.camel@fz.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18L8NVTY0dGoOpj8LgO7tsXc1zkNDKeIOMJ9aA rhNzyRGVUsYOiXQKzkrau4prn2rqxF0QhIV5UojyH7UT2uS9dH Zth1fl4PjPuQRhdwJpzlsCYb3NnhF0V X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) Subject: Re: [RFC] make output of compiling a bit less verbose to make warnings more visible X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GRUB 2 List-Id: The development of GRUB 2 List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:37:48 -0000 Am Mittwoch, den 03.09.2008, 16:37 +0800 schrieb Bean: > However, I don't like that it uses ruby to generate makefiles. Ruby is > not a standard component, so there is a chance that user don't install > it. I guess perl would be better. I had somehow already the impression that this ruby based build system isn't really well maintained ;) I looked now even a bit over the automake[0] documentation. For me personally it just looks easier to get into that, because it is just made for Makefile's instead of some perl/python/ruby script which generates them. If automake isn't enough maybe we could use a combination of it with a small perl script or so? Though I don't know any perl/python/ruby at all. I'm willing to really look into this automake stuff if there are no strong objections against it, in the hope that in the end the build system is clean, easily understandable and can be well maintained :) Though this will probable take a little while so I still think Colin's way would be a good short term solution and for long term we remake the whole build process with that idea integrated from the beginning. [0] http://www.gnu.org/software/automake/manual/automake.html -- Felix Zielcke