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From: Mattias Nissler <mattias.nissler@gmx.de>
To: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
Cc: "Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	"Mikko Virkkilä" <mikko.virkkila@bluegiga.com>,
	rt2400-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] TX status reporting with help of an ack queue
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:41:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1221514881.4511.118.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200809152328.50471.IvDoorn@gmail.com>

On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 23:28 +0200, Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> On Monday 15 September 2008, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 22:20 +0200, Mattias Nissler wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, I'm a big fan of modularizing everything in a clean way. This
> > > whole mac80211 thingy is complex enough... But I don't really care as
> > > long as everybody here is happy with it. Let's wait what Mikko says,
> > > it's his code so far.
> > 
> > Sure. If you manage to split it out entirely, maybe by some struct that
> > drivers embed in their private vif struct, that'd be great too.
> 
> I think the ACK handling could become quite complex, and although it
> would be nice to modularize it a bit, however I am not really sure about
> what the best approach would be for the implementation other then that
> the driver should do as little as possible. ;)

Huh? I think a single function call for the matching in the rx path is
enough. You call it in the rx handler for every received frame. It
returns true if it found a match and reported the tx status (in which
case you stop processing) or false and you can go on doing with the
frame whatever you want. Am I missing something?

> 
> Perhaps Mikko or the zd1211rw developers will have better ideas on this subject. :)
> 
> > > > But ACK is getting confusing, we're just reporting status based on
> > > > reception (or non-reception!) of ACKs :) How about retries in the hw?
> > > 
> > > Retries in the hw? I don't understand? You mean that as a name?
> > 
> > Well, with all this we won't know how many times the hardware attempted
> > to send a frame before it got an ACK, if it got one at all. We'd like to
> > know this too, I guess, for the rate control algorithm.
> 
> Well this information would definately get lost with this ACK handling,
> but at least we get *some* information about the TX status. ;)

The (not) failed decision is definitely enough to get the PID algo doing
something useful.

Mattias


  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-15 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1221494693.14102.22.camel@virkkmi-linux>
2008-09-15 17:11 ` [RFC][PATCH] TX status reporting with help of an ack queue Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-15 17:56   ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 18:03     ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 19:00       ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 19:21         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 19:39           ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 19:46             ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 20:20               ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 20:33                 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 21:01                   ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-24  0:59                     ` John W. Linville
2008-09-24  7:40                       ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-24  8:34                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 21:28                   ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-15 21:41                     ` Mattias Nissler [this message]
2008-09-16 18:17                       ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-17 23:08                         ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-16  6:24                   ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-16  4:58         ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-16 18:18           ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 20:37             ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-18 22:29               ` ACK matching [was: TX status reporting with help of an ack queue] Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19  9:08                 ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-19  9:46                   ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19  9:54                     ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-19 10:19                       ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 10:31                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-19 13:51                           ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 13:55                             ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-19 14:20                             ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-19 17:50                               ` Jouni Malinen
2008-09-23  6:09                                 ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-23  7:05                                   ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 18:30                     ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-10-19  5:49                 ` Daniel Drake

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