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From: Alok Kataria <akataria@vmware.com>
To: Chris Snook <csnook@redhat.com>
Cc: Alok kataria <alokkataria1@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jeff Hansen <x@jeffhansen.com>,
	"torvalds@linux-foundation.org" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Re: x86_32 tsc/pit and hrtimers
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:53:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1223589220.32639.24.camel@alok-dev1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48EE71A9.2010907@redhat.com>

On Thu, 2008-10-09 at 14:03 -0700, Chris Snook wrote:
> Alok kataria wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 9 Oct 2008, Jeff Hansen wrote:
> >>
> >>> OK, so are we all agreed that something like clocksource_trust=tsc would be
> >>> the best?
> >> No, it's per affected device: tsc=trust or tsc=stable or whatever
> >> unintuitive name we want to come up. And it is a modification to TSC
> >> not to the clocksource layer.
> >
> > Yep, this is cool. I too have a patch in my local tree which does a
> > similar thing i have a tsc_reliable flag which is set right now only
> > when we are running under a VMware hypervisor.
> > Along with marking the no_verify flag for TSC, this patch of mine also
> > skips the TSC synchornization checks.
> >
> >         The TSC synchronization loop which is run whenever a new cpu is
> > brought up is not actually needed on systems which are known to have a
> > reliable TSC. TSC between 2 cpus can be off by a marginal value on such
> > systems and thats okay for timekeeping, since we do check for tsc going
> > back in read_tsc.
> >
> > Can this reasoning be included and synchronization skipped for all
> > these systems with reliable aka trustworthy TSC's  ?
> 
> In general, no.  Not all hardware/hypervisors behave this way, even when the TSC
> is otherwise stable once synchronized.

I agree that in general this should be no, but since this is a
commandline variable it will be normally set for only those systems
which have only TSC as a option or know that the TSC is reliable.
wouldn't doing this be ok for such systems ? 

Thanks,
Alok

> 
> -- Chris


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-09 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-07 22:41 x86_32 tsc/pit and hrtimers Jeff Hansen
2008-10-08 18:41 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-08 19:46   ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-08 20:25     ` Chris Snook
2008-10-08 21:43       ` [PATCH] " Jeff Hansen
2008-10-08 21:47         ` Randy.Dunlap
2008-10-08 21:47         ` Chris Snook
2008-10-08 21:56           ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-09  7:14             ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-10-09 18:39               ` Chris Snook
2008-10-09 19:18                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-10-09 19:45                   ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-09 19:53                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-10-09 20:45                       ` Alok kataria
2008-10-09 21:03                         ` Chris Snook
2008-10-09 21:18                           ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-09 22:03                             ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-09 21:53                           ` Alok Kataria [this message]
2008-10-09 22:50                             ` Chris Snook
2008-10-09 23:22                               ` Alok Kataria
2008-10-09 23:37                                 ` Chris Snook
2008-10-10 14:24                                   ` Jeff Hansen
2008-10-09 17:20   ` Pavel Machek

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