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From: Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com>
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Nicol? Chieffo <84yelo3@gmail.com>,
	Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>,
	Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@ntfs-3g.org>,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: interface to ask is a file is hidden
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:20:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1223968819.1064.7.camel@fatty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081013204445.GC22447@logfs.org>

On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 22:44 +0200, Jörn Engel wrote:
> On Mon, 13 October 2008 13:39:21 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote:
> > 
> > Its only useless and bloat if you think the feature is useless, so we're
> > once again back to your preferences in applications. I'd like to think
> > that the opinions of others would be taken into consideration for this
> > too, and I and others would like this feature.
> 
> It is a tradeoff.  How urgent is the feature, how much bloat will it
> create, what's the mainenance load on people like Christoph.  Since he
> is one of the _very_ few people who actually carry the maintenance load,
> I would take his advice rather seriously and try to convince him on
> technical grounds.
> 
> > Unfortunately I don't have time myself atm to implement this, but I hope
> > someone else is interested in working on this.
> 
> And this is a perfect example of how not to convince someone.  Once you
> have the time you might want to look at lsattr/chattr.  Until then, this
> discussion is a waste of readers time.

I'm not really out to convince anyone to do this work for me, because I
understand that nobody here is interested in file managers. 

However I don't think writing this is completely a waste of time.
Consider it an expression of interest in having stat.st_flags
implemented in Linux. I can use at least UF_HIDDEN and UF_IMMUTABLE in
the file manager. Perhaps someone else is interested in this also and
eventually the joint interest in it might get it implemented (it
happened in FreeBSD after all).


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-10-14  7:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-10 19:22 interface to ask is a file is hidden Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 19:21 ` Josef Bacik
2008-10-10 19:35   ` Jeremy Allison
2008-10-10 20:00     ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 19:57       ` Josef Bacik
2008-10-10 20:11         ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 21:57       ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 22:01         ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13  8:22           ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13  9:21             ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-13  9:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 10:37               ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-13 10:37               ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13 10:43                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 11:39                   ` Alexander Larsson
2008-10-13 20:44                     ` Jörn Engel
2008-10-13 20:50                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-14  7:20                       ` Alexander Larsson [this message]
2008-10-10 22:18         ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-10-10 22:21         ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 22:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 22:33             ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 22:36               ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-10 22:58                 ` Nicolò Chieffo
2008-10-10 23:12                   ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-10-11  0:10                 ` Bryan Henderson
2008-10-11  1:36               ` Theodore Tso
2008-10-10 22:57         ` Brad Boyer
2008-10-13  7:29         ` Anton Altaparmakov
2008-10-13 10:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2008-10-13 10:59           ` Alexander Larsson

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