From: Harvey Harrison <harvey.harrison@gmail.com>
To: Will Newton <will.newton@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC-PATCH 1/5] unaligned: introduce common header
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:51:29 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1226335889.5478.40.camel@brick> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a5b0800811100349n435785by27ebc4e495bb7985@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 11:49 +0000, Will Newton wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Harvey Harrison
> <harvey.harrison@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> (add back lkml cc that I mistakenly dropped)
>
> > On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 12:47 +0000, Will Newton wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Harvey Harrison
> >> <harvey.harrison@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > The memmove-based arches (m32r, xtensa, h8300) are likely going to be fine with this change
> >> > barring compiler bugs that made them go with memmove in the first place.
> >>
> >> As I understand it the need for the memmove implementation is not
> >> compiler bugs but default struct alignment. The packed struct
> >> implementation will only work with compilers where structs can be
> >> aligned on byte boundaries, it's fairly common for RISC architectures
> >> to align structs to 4 or 8 byte boundaries.
> >
> > Which I believe is disabled entirely using __attribute__((packed)), no?
>
> As far as I am aware the packed attribute is handled in this way for
> some toolchains (arm in particular). Not everybody does it, and for
> good reasons. For example if I have this struct on an architecture
> with 8 byte default struct alignment:
>
I should have been more careful with my wording here, I meant that no
alignment assumptions are made when accessing a packed struct through
a pointer, as is the case with the kernel version.
> struct foo {
> u64 big_data;
> u8 small_data;
> u32 medium_data;
> } __attribute__((packed));
>
> Should big_data be accessed as 8 byte load instructions rather than
> one 64bit load instruction? It's a pretty large performance penalty to
> pay when all I really want is for medium_data to be accessed
> correctly.
In this particular case, packed isn't right as you know big_data is
aligned (as long as you can guarantee the struct alignment), so you'd
probably want:
struct foo {
u64 big_data;
u8 small_data;
u32 medium_data __attribute__((__packed__));
}
But that's not what we're talking about in the kernel's case.
Harvey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-11-10 16:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-11-05 18:16 [RFC-PATCH 1/5] unaligned: introduce common header Harvey Harrison
[not found] ` <87a5b0800811080447m2cebebb7j77afe9592f72ab11@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <1226290940.5478.3.camel@brick>
2008-11-10 11:49 ` Will Newton
2008-11-10 16:51 ` Harvey Harrison [this message]
2008-11-10 18:35 ` Will Newton
2008-11-10 18:51 ` Harvey Harrison
2008-11-11 9:50 ` Will Newton
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=1226335889.5478.40.camel@brick \
--to=harvey.harrison@gmail.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=will.newton@gmail.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.