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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jesse.barnes@intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Reworking suspend-resume sequence (was: Re: PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:05:27 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1233702327.16867.109.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902032344.22348.rjw@sisk.pl>


> (Newer) ACPI says that devices should be put into low power states (presumably
> with the help of appropriate ACPI AML routines) before the _PTS method is
> called.  In turn, we're supposed to disable nonboot CPUs after calling _PTS.
> There is analogous requirement for the _WAK method during resume.
> 
> Currently, the suspend code ordering follows these rules, but if we move
> the putting of devices into low power states into the suspend_late part, they
> will have to be done after _PTS and that is likely to break things (we've
> already had this problem once and I have really bad memories related to it).

Wait wait wait ... the -whole- point of the exercise, wether using
local_irq_save or disable_irq, -is- to put the ACPI bit -after- setting
the device in low power state and before the restore on wakeup...

So basically, that isn't changing.

The -one- thing that indeed conflicts here is that we disable nonboot
CPUs earlier. Right ?

Now, I doubt that would be a big issue, ie, we are supposedly capable of
dynamically disabling/enabling CPUs anyway, but if it is, then indeed I
see how the using of higher level PIC irq disabling would allow to move
the whole suspend_late() over to before disabling non-boot CPUs.

That does introduce a significant change in semantics for drivers in the
sense that now, suspend_late will be called with timers running, things
scheduling, requests coming in, etc... One of the big reasons for doing
suspend_late with IRQs off was precisely that drivers wouldn't have to
synchronize with all these things. They now do.

Thus I tend to think that keeping the disabling of nonboot CPUs earlier
than the suspending of devices is the least of two evils. _BUT_ As I
said, I'm no ACPI expert and not -that- familiar with x86 land, it might
indeed be a can of worms.

Cheers,
Ben.



  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-03 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200901261904.n0QJ4Q9c016709@hera.kernel.org>
2009-02-02  9:54 ` PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 17:06   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 20:29     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 20:41       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 21:00         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:32           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 20:33     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 20:50       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 20:55         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 21:19           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:39           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:05             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:09               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:31               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 23:18                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 23:45                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 23:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  0:15                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:28                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  1:12                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  1:32                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  1:46                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:30                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:47                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  4:03                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  6:07                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 15:48                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 22:59                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 23:23                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 16:33                             ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-03  0:15                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  0:58                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:51                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  3:55                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  4:09                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  4:21                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  9:26                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:04                       ` Reworking suspend-resume sequence (was: Re: PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early) Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:59                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 18:31                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 18:41                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 18:32                           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-02-03 18:46                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:03                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:13                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 19:38                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:53                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 20:04                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 20:18                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 20:57                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 21:04                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 21:12                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-04 10:07                                               ` Russell King
2009-02-03 21:18                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 19:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:11                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 21:53                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 22:33                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 22:44                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:05                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-02-03 23:18                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-04  0:27                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-04  8:02                                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-04 23:25                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-03-05  8:19                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-03-05 19:09                                                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:25                                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-04  0:46                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:02                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03 21:56                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 17:53                       ` PCI PM: Restore standard config registers of all devices early Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03 21:57                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:48               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 23:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:23                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  0:29                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:44                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-03  1:32                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  5:06                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 11:06                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-03 12:09                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-02 23:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-03 22:09                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03 23:13                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:28             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:07         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 21:49           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:15             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-02 22:33               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-02 22:56                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  0:11                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-03  0:21                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-02-10 20:25                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 22:57               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 23:22                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-02-03  1:03                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-10 20:25                     ` kmalloc during suspend, was " Pavel Machek
2009-02-02 17:20   ` Rafael J. Wysocki

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