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From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net, tglx@linutronix.de,
	me@felipebalbi.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, felipe.balbi@nokia.com,
	dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com, sameo@openedhand.com
Subject: Re: lockdep and threaded IRQs
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 00:07:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1236035221.5330.1798.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090302145757.38a44307.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 14:57 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:46:47 -0800 (PST)
> David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
> > Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:19:31 +0100
> > 
> > > I state that every !IRQF_DISABLED usage is a bug, either due to broken
> > > hardware or broken drivers.
> > 
> > We'll send you the bill to have everyone's hardware
> > replaced :-)
> 
> yes, but with what?
> 
> No matter how fast all our interrupt handlers are, running them with
> local interrupts disabled has to worsen the worst-case interrupt
> latency.
> 
> I don't see how removing !IRQF_DISABLED improves the kernel - in fact
> there's a latency argument for making !IRQF_DISABLED the default.

On preempt-rt all we do in the hardirq path is mask the interrupt line
and wake up a thread. That's the extreme end of low latency interrupts.

Arguably there is a middle way that works for !-rt.

However, striving to enable interrupts in all interrupt handlers is
asking for stack overruns. Interrupt nesting just isn't really helpful.


  reply	other threads:[~2009-03-02 23:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-27 19:28 [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 19:28 ` [PATCH 2/2] mfd: twl4030: add twl4030-pwrbutton as our child Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 20:36   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 21:58     ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 22:09       ` Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 22:09         ` Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 22:12       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 23:20         ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 23:20           ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 23:42           ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-22 19:27             ` Trilok Soni
2009-07-22 22:25               ` David Brownell
2009-07-22 22:25                 ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 20:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 20:37   ` Felipe Balbi
2009-02-27 21:50     ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver) David Brownell
2009-02-27 21:50       ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 22:09       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-27 23:18         ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) David Brownell
2009-02-27 23:18           ` David Brownell
2009-02-27 23:32           ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  0:01             ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  0:01               ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  2:30               ` David Brownell
2009-02-28  2:39                 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  4:46                   ` David Brownell
2009-02-28  5:12                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-28  6:17                       ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 11:13                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 12:16                       ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 16:42                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 20:02                           ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 20:02                             ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 20:55                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 21:13                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 22:37                                 ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 22:05                               ` David Brownell
2009-03-01  9:43                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-01 22:54                                   ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 13:16                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 21:04                                       ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 21:16                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 21:29                                           ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-02 21:37                                           ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 21:41                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:09                                               ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:19                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:40                                                   ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:51                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:29                                                       ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  7:45                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:46                                                   ` lockdep and threaded IRQs David Miller
2009-03-02 22:57                                                     ` Andrew Morton
2009-03-02 23:07                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-03-02 23:02                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:35                                           ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) Alan Cox
2009-03-01 22:11                               ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 11:48                     ` lockdep and threaded IRQs Stefan Richter
2009-02-28 20:19                       ` David Brownell
2009-02-28 21:10                         ` Stefan Richter
2009-03-02 13:16           ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 22:10             ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:25               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:20                 ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:26                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 23:42                     ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  0:33                         ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  0:33                           ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  0:44                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  0:44                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  2:37                             ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  2:37                               ` David Brownell
2009-03-03  9:27                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-03  9:45                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03  9:47                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-03-03 10:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03 10:30                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-03-03 10:39                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-03 10:48                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03 11:13                                         ` Alan Cox
2009-03-03 11:33                                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-03 11:19                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-18  1:04                                         ` David Brownell
2009-03-18  2:00                             ` David Brownell
2009-03-18  2:14                             ` [patch/rfc 0/2] handle_threaded_irq() David Brownell
2009-03-18  2:19                               ` [patch/rfc 1/2] GENIRQ: add handle_threaded_irq() flow handler David Brownell
2009-03-18 12:00                                 ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-18 18:31                                   ` David Brownell
2009-03-18 18:32                                     ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-18  2:22                               ` [patch/rfc 2/2] twl4030: use new " David Brownell
2009-03-03 11:53                       ` lockdep and threaded IRQs (was: ...) Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-05  2:49                         ` David Brownell
2009-03-05  2:49                           ` David Brownell
2009-03-06 14:40                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-03-18  3:06                             ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:48                     ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:48                       ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 23:58                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 23:58                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-02 15:13           ` [PATCH] genirq: assert that irq handlers are indeed run in hardirq context Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 19:48             ` David Brownell
2009-03-02 22:01             ` [tip:irq/genirq] genirq: assert that irq handlers are indeed running " Peter Zijlstra
2009-03-02 23:15             ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-04-10  7:11               ` Eric Miao
2009-04-10  9:57                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-02-28 11:20       ` lockdep and threaded IRQs Stefan Richter
2009-02-28 20:10         ` David Brownell
2009-02-28  5:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Trilok Soni
2009-02-28 12:05   ` [PATCH] mfd: twl4030: add twl4030-pwrbutton as our child Felipe Balbi
2009-02-28 22:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] input: misc: add twl4030-pwrbutton driver Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-01  0:30   ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-01  0:58     ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-01 14:40       ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-04  9:00         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-03-04 10:12           ` Felipe Balbi
2009-03-05  1:38             ` David Brownell
2009-03-05 23:54           ` David Brownell
2009-03-06  9:43             ` Dmitry Torokhov

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