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From: Dave Hansen <dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
To: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Containers <containers-qjLDD68F18O7TbgM5vRIOg@public.gmane.org>,
	Sukadev Bhattiprolu
	<sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] /proc/pid/checkpointable
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 07:42:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1237387371.8286.113.camel@nimitz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C0B6FF.5030104-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 04:55 -0400, Oren Laadan wrote: Bhattiprolu wrote:
> > From: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
> > Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:25:42 -0700
> > Subject: [PATCH 5/6] Define and use proc_pid_checkpointable()
> > 
> > Create a proc file, /proc/pid/checkpointable, which shows '1' if
> > task is checkpointable and '0' if it is not.
> > 
> > To determine whether a task is checkpointable, the handler for this
> > new proc file, shares the same code with sys_checkpoint().
> 
> I still don't understand why we would like to do it this way.
> 
> First, it makes little sense to do it per-task, because we are supposed
> to checkpoint an entire container.

I take it you didn't like the 'files' or 'uts' versions of this, either.
Do we have a container object in the kernel that we could tag, anyway?

> Second, what's wrong with doing a "dry" checkpoint on the container (or
> if you prefer, the task, for what it's worth), that will not buffer nor
> write out any data - just say "yes" or "no" ?
> 
> (we could use a flag "CR_CTX_DRYRUN" when calling sys_checkpoint() for
> this, and test for this flag in, say, kwrite/kread).
> 
> After all, we don't expect applications or users to continuously and
> repeatedly test if they can checkpoint, so it isn't performance critical.
> So we simply reuse the existing code.

Heh.  Did you read Ingo's suggestions?  He suggested *exactly* that.

http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/9/196

> This would also catch cases where we can't checkpoint because the kernel
> is low on memory - which wouldn't show up otherwise.
> 
> And in any case, this is orthogonal to what Dave is pushing, following
> Ingo's comment, to know when a task _becomes_ not-checkpointable. (And
> in any case, I think our time is better spent on adding functionality
> instead).
> 
> Oren.
-- Dave

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-18 14:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-17  6:27 [PATCH 0/6] /proc/pid/checkpointable Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found] ` <20090317062754.GA2377-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-17  6:38   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17  6:38   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17  6:39   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17  6:39   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2009-03-17  6:39   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]     ` <20090317063940.GF2377-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18  8:55       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]         ` <49C0B6FF.5030104-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 13:59           ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]             ` <20090318135953.GE22636-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 16:16               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <49C11E61.4010505-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 16:24                   ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-18 17:48                     ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                       ` <49C133F9.2020505-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 18:06                         ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-18 16:23               ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                 ` <49C1201A.3050604-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 17:18                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                     ` <20090318171840.GA29523-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 17:50                       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]                         ` <49C1347F.3000601-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 20:03                           ` Mike Waychison
     [not found]                             ` <49C153AF.7070504-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 20:13                               ` Dave Hansen
2009-03-25 12:25                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                                   ` <m17i2dx00b.fsf-+imSwln9KH6u2/kzUuoCbdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-25 17:29                                     ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                                       ` <20090325172938.GA18957-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-26  9:52                                         ` Cedric Le Goater
     [not found]                                           ` <49CB504A.2080400-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-26 13:29                                             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-18 14:42           ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2009-03-17  6:39   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found]     ` <20090317063958.GG2377-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18  8:56       ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]         ` <49C0B750.4050109-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18 13:53           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-03-17  6:55   ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-03-17 17:43 Sukadev Bhattiprolu
     [not found] ` <20090317174359.GA10796-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-03-18  9:28   ` Oren Laadan

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