From: "Peter W. Morreale" <pmorreale@novell.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: ghaskins@novell.com, vernux@us.ibm.com, andi@firstfloor.org,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, pmullaney@novell.com
Subject: Re: High contention on the sk_buff_head.lock
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:50:44 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1237467044.6926.27.camel@hermosa> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090318.180355.228447835.davem@davemloft.net>
On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 18:03 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> From: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>
> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:54:04 -0400
>
> > Note that -rt doesnt typically context-switch under contention anymore
> > since we introduced adaptive-locks. Also note that the contention
> > against the lock is still contention, regardless of whether you have -rt
> > or not. Its just that the slow-path to handle the contended case for
> > -rt is more expensive than mainline. However, once you have the
> > contention as stated, you have already lost.
>
> First, contention is not implicitly a bad thing.
>
> Second, if the -rt kernel is doing adaptive spinning I see no
> reason why that adaptive spinning is not kicking in here to
> make this problem just go away.
The basic 'problem' with comparing RT adaptive spinning to non-rt
spinlocks is that if the lock owner is !oncpu, all spinners must break
and go to sleep, otherwise we (potentially) deadlock. This does not
exist for non-rt spinners.
Best,
-PWM
>
> This lock is held for mere cycles, just to unlink an SKB from
> the networking qdisc, and then it is immediately released.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-19 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-18 17:24 High contention on the sk_buff_head.lock Vernon Mauery
2009-03-18 19:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-18 20:17 ` Vernon Mauery
2009-03-20 23:29 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-03-23 8:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-23 8:32 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-23 8:37 ` David Miller
2009-03-23 8:50 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-04-02 14:13 ` Herbert Xu
2009-04-02 14:15 ` Herbert Xu
2009-03-18 20:54 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-18 21:03 ` David Miller
2009-03-18 21:10 ` Vernon Mauery
2009-03-18 21:38 ` David Miller
2009-03-18 21:49 ` Vernon Mauery
2009-03-19 1:02 ` David Miller
2009-03-18 21:54 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-19 1:03 ` David Miller
2009-03-19 1:13 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-03-19 1:17 ` David Miller
2009-03-19 1:43 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-03-19 1:54 ` David Miller
2009-03-19 5:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-19 5:49 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-19 5:58 ` David Miller
2009-03-19 14:04 ` [PATCH] net: reorder struct Qdisc for better SMP performance Eric Dumazet
2009-03-19 14:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-03-20 8:33 ` David Miller
2009-03-19 13:45 ` High contention on the sk_buff_head.lock Andi Kleen
2009-03-19 3:48 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-19 5:38 ` David Miller
2009-03-19 12:42 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-03-19 20:52 ` David Miller
2009-03-19 12:50 ` Peter W. Morreale [this message]
2009-03-19 7:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2009-03-18 21:07 ` Vernon Mauery
2009-03-18 21:45 ` Eilon Greenstein
2009-03-18 21:51 ` Vernon Mauery
2009-03-18 21:59 ` Andi Kleen
2009-03-18 22:19 ` Rick Jones
2009-03-19 12:59 ` Peter W. Morreale
2009-03-19 13:36 ` Peter W. Morreale
2009-03-19 13:46 ` Andi Kleen
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