From: Greg Kurz <gkurz@fr.ibm.com>
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Cc: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>,
Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
containers@lists.osdl.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: C/R without "leaks" (was: Re: Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 10:46:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1239957974.6143.36.camel@bahia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090416161215.GA8505@x200.localdomain>
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 20:12 +0400, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:42:17AM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 23:56 +0400, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
>
> > > There are sockets and live netns as the most complex example. I'm not
> > > prepared to describe it exactly, but people wishing to do C/R with
> > > "leaks" should be very careful with their wishes.
> >
> > They should close their sockets before checkpoint and find/have some way
> > to reconnect after. This implies some kind of C/R awareness in the code
> > to be checkpointed.
>
> How do you imagine sshd closing sockets and reconnecting?
Dunno and it isn't really my concern... I'm interested in HPC jobs that
can collaborate with the C/R feature. For examples, those jobs that use
interconnect hardware that will never be *checkpointable*... Usually,
the batch manager tells the jobs it's going to be checkpointed, so that
it can disconnect/shrink memory/reach quiescent point, and reconnect
after resuming execution.
I understand you aim at supporting transparent C/R of connected TCP
sockets. Nice feature. Could you give use cases where it's *really*
helpful/needed/mandatory ?
--
Gregory Kurz gkurz@fr.ibm.com
Software Engineer @ IBM/Meiosys http://www.ibm.com
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-17 8:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-14 3:43 Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-14 14:53 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 16:16 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-04-14 16:36 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-14 16:46 ` Alexey Dobriyan
[not found] ` <20090414163633.GE27461-2ev+ksY9ol182hYKe6nXyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-14 18:40 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 18:40 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 19:59 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-14 20:10 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-14 21:01 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-15 19:56 ` C/R without "leaks" (was: Re: Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel) Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-15 21:38 ` C/R without "leaks" Oren Laadan
2009-04-22 0:16 ` Nathan Lynch
2009-04-15 22:42 ` C/R without "leaks" (was: Re: Creating tasks on restart: userspace vs kernel) Greg Kurz
2009-04-16 16:12 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-16 16:12 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-04-16 18:10 ` C/R without "leaks" Chris Friesen
[not found] ` <49E774B1.5060505-ZIRUuHA3oDzQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-04-16 18:39 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-16 18:39 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-17 9:15 ` Greg Kurz
2009-04-17 9:48 ` Oren Laadan
2009-04-17 12:25 ` Greg Kurz
2009-04-17 8:46 ` Greg Kurz [this message]
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