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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Alina Friedrichsen <x-alina@gmx.net>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT v2] cfg80211/nl80211: add IBSS API
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:31:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1240169475.11795.79.camel@violet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090419184320.158810@gmx.net>

Hi Alina,

let me repeat what Johannes mentioned earlier, please don't send emails
twice. Just use a proper working MUA and do Reply-All.

> > and that is just plain wrong to begin with. If you want a one command do
> > everything, then do that in userspace and not inside a kernel API.
> 
> Then why not implement deferent syscalls for floppy disks, hard disk drives, solid state disks and normal files? If you want one generic API than write an users-space library.
> 
> Thought-out APIs sucks, MS-DOS rules!

you are seriously comparing block devices to network device now? They
are different, go figure. You better bring technical arguments that
matter and not something far fetched from a total different technology.

> > >>From my point of view, WEXT can die right now. Just doing something to
> > make WEXT happy is wrong. If you want something like that then do it in
> > userspace. I just don't see the need here for an extra kernel API.
> 
> There is no concept, what should be in user-space and what not. It's all mixed together. Not a microkernel, no a monolithic kernel, awful.

Actually there is a clear thing here. No policy inside the kernel. So no
stupid magic between ad-hoc and managed mode. The userspace has to make
the decision what it wants to do. The kernel just executes it.

Regards

Marcel



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-04-19 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-18 22:49 [RFC/RFT] cfg80211/nl80211: add IBSS API Johannes Berg
2009-04-18 23:37 ` [RFC/RFT v2] " Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 12:52   ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 13:17     ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 13:35       ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 13:41         ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 14:05           ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 14:11             ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 15:16               ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 15:25                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 15:53                   ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 15:57                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 16:13                       ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 16:26                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 16:54                           ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 16:57                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 17:33                               ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 17:49                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-04-19 18:03                                   ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 18:14                                     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-04-19 18:43                                       ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 18:55                                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 19:01                                           ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 19:21                                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 19:25                                               ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 19:31                                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-04-19 19:52                                                   ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 19:31                                         ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2009-04-19 19:40                                           ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 13:22 ` [RFC/RFT] " Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 14:33   ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 16:32     ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 16:54       ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 17:15         ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 17:19           ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 17:45             ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 18:00               ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 18:18                 ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 18:34                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 18:42                     ` Alina Friedrichsen
     [not found]   ` <20090419142631.158790@gmx.net>
2009-04-19 14:33     ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 14:37       ` Johannes Berg
2009-04-19 14:49         ` Alina Friedrichsen
     [not found]     ` <1240151561.898.12.camel@johannes.local>
2009-04-19 14:41       ` Alina Friedrichsen
2009-04-19 14:53         ` Johannes Berg

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