From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list linux-mips); Tue, 19 May 2009 13:17:17 +0100 (BST) Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr ([93.17.128.4]:63536 "EHLO smtp21.services.sfr.fr" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by ftp.linux-mips.org with ESMTP id S20024549AbZESMRK (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 May 2009 13:17:10 +0100 Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2117.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B16887000095; Tue, 19 May 2009 14:17:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (152.174.71-86.rev.gaoland.net [86.71.174.152]) by msfrf2117.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3C0D57000094; Tue, 19 May 2009 14:17:03 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20090519121703246.3C0D57000094@msfrf2117.sfr.fr Subject: Re: Bigsur? From: Laurent GUERBY To: Jon Fraser Cc: Ralf Baechle , Andrew Wiley , "linux-mips@linux-mips.org" , "Maciej W. Rozycki" In-Reply-To: References: <1242663215.18301.26.camel@chaos.ne.broadcom.com> <20090518222334.GD16847@linux-mips.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 14:17:20 +0200 Message-Id: <1242735440.6098.101.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: X-Envelope-To: <"|/home/ecartis/ecartis -s linux-mips"> (uid 0) X-Orcpt: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org Original-Recipient: rfc822;linux-mips@linux-mips.org X-archive-position: 22815 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org Errors-to: linux-mips-bounce@linux-mips.org X-original-sender: laurent@guerby.net Precedence: bulk X-list: linux-mips On Mon, 2009-05-18 at 23:47 +0100, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > Yes, invaluable for native builds and there is a considerable number of > software packages which is not capable of being cross-compiled, or > requires extreme contortions to be built this way, or if buildable with a > reasonable effort, the functionality is limited. Besides a three-stage > GCC bootstrap is a good way of verifying the quality of the tool, never > mind standard DejaGNU-based regression testing which although possible > using cross-tools and a remote target, is awfully painful to be set up > this way. For MIPS in the GCC Compile Farm http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm (which is open to all free software, not limited to GCC) we have two loongson-2f based netbooks on which a GCC bootstrap and check is manageable. Right now this farm is more oriented towards upstream userland developpers debug/test cycles - they get access to 12 architectures when they sign in. It's not really oriented towards porting kernel/distributions or building distribution packages which is already well covered by existing distribution farms and individual developpers and those developpers should get priority on new hardware :). This farm project is part of the Free Software Fundation France (a french not-for-profit organization) effort to help free software development and we accept hardware and hosting donations, and also discounts to purchase commercial hardware when donations are not possible and there is significant interest in one platform. Sincerely, Laurent