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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas@shipmail.org>,
	"Dave Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexdeucher@gmail.com>,
	"Andrew Lutomirski" <luto@mit.edu>,
	dri-devel@lists.sf.net, "Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm: previous pull req + 1.
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:01:39 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1245715299.4017.15.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.01.0906221121100.3240@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 11:22 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Not going to happen.
> 
> Why? 'printk'.
> 
> If you can't handle printk, then you're basically useless. And printk 
> absolutely -has- to work in bad situations (the most important
> messages could happen in any context).

Well... yes and no. If X is frontmost, printk is not going to be
printed, ie, I'm talking about today, when the console is !KD_TEXT.

There -is- a mechanism to deal with these things today, and the console
semaphore does take care of accesses to the fb.

(That doesn't exclude having the ability to force-switch back to kernel
fb for printing things like oops btw, which KMS could do, but for basic
access control, it makes sense).

Cheers,
Ben.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-23  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-20  5:23 [git pull] drm: previous pull req + 1 Dave Airlie
2009-06-21  0:04 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-06-21  0:42   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-21 14:47     ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-06-21 21:24       ` Chris Wilson
2009-06-22 18:09         ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-06-29  7:57           ` Chris Wilson
2009-06-30  9:49             ` Chris Wilson
2009-07-09 23:11             ` Eric Anholt
2009-06-21  1:33   ` Dave Airlie
2009-06-21  3:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2009-06-21  5:16   ` Dave Airlie
2009-06-21 12:06     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2009-06-21 16:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-21 17:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-21 18:50         ` Andrew Lutomirski
2009-06-21 19:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-21 21:14             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2009-06-22  0:05               ` Andrew Lutomirski
2009-06-22 19:20                 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2009-06-21 22:40             ` Dave Airlie
2009-06-22  8:18               ` Thomas Hellström
2009-06-22  8:30                 ` Dave Airlie
2009-06-22 18:22                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-22 18:59                   ` Andrew Lutomirski
2009-06-22 19:43                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23  0:01                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-06-23  0:00                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-23  0:24                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-23  1:04                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-23  1:18                       ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-23  1:58                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-23  2:07                           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-23  2:26                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-23 15:40                               ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-23  7:48                         ` Michel Dänzer
2009-06-23 15:39                           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-23 16:28                             ` Jesse Barnes
2009-06-22 23:57             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-06-21 22:41       ` Dave Airlie

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