From: "David P. Quigley" <dpquigl@tycho.nsa.gov>
To: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Cc: jmorris@namei.org, gregkh@suse.de, sds@tycho.nsa.gov,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Security/sysfs: Enable security xattrs to be set on sysfs files, directories, and symlinks.
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:05:06 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1247148306.4398.157.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A554B95.6070709@schaufler-ca.com>
On Wed, 2009-07-08 at 18:44 -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> David P. Quigley wrote:
> > This patch adds a setxattr handler to the file, directory, and symlink
> > inode_operations structures for sysfs. This handler uses two new LSM hooks. The
> > first hook takes the xattr name and value and turns the context into a secid.
> > This is embedded into the sysfs_dirent structure so it remains persistent even
> > if the inode structures are evicted from the cache. The second hook allows for
> > the secid to be taken from the sysfs_dirent and be pushed into the inode
> > structure as the actual secid for the inode.
> >
>
> Nacked-by: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
>
> I'm all for sysfs supporting xattrs.
>
> I am completely opposed to secids as file system metadata.
>
> What do you get when you do an ls -Z?
>
> An LSM must not be beholden to exposing transient internal
> representations of security data to userspace, which is what
> you're doing here. An LSM gets to decide what the security
> information it maintains looks like by defining a security blob.
>
> If you want this in, implement xattrs in sysfs for real. Smack
> depends on the existing, published, and supported xattr interfaces
> for dealing with getting and setting the values. Not secids.
> Smack maintains secids because labeled networking and audit require
> them, and they got there first.
>
>
So are you proposing that we embed a variable length string in the
sysfs_dirent structure because that sounds completely silly. It seems
completely reasonable here to take the blob coming in and have the LSM
turn it into a handle that is efficiently referenced by the
sysfs_dirent. The problem here is that sysfs entries have no backing
store at all which means everything we do will have to be added to
sysfs_dirent. I'm pretty sure we don't want to be doing lifecycle
management on strings inside this structure considering the only other
string I see is marked const. If you have a better way of doing this I'm
interested in hearing it but it doesn't seem reasonable to be storing
the xattr itself in the sysfs_dirent. I'd like to hear what Greg thinks
about that.
Dave
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-09 14:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-08 17:28 [PATCH] Security/sysfs: Enable security xattrs to be set on sysfs files, directories, and symlinks David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 1:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-07-09 14:05 ` David P. Quigley [this message]
2009-07-09 14:49 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-07-09 14:56 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 15:16 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 15:16 ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 14:11 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 17:26 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 17:50 ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 19:32 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 20:13 ` Greg KH
2009-07-10 3:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-07-13 15:07 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 15:18 ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 17:13 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 17:52 ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 19:28 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 20:12 ` Greg KH
2009-07-09 20:19 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-09 20:41 ` Greg KH
2009-07-14 16:37 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14 17:50 ` Greg KH
2009-07-14 20:16 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14 20:35 ` Greg KH
2009-07-14 20:35 ` David P. Quigley
[not found] ` <m1r5wmnee0.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
[not found] ` <1247498399.4398.259.camel@localhost>
2009-07-13 16:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-13 19:18 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14 0:29 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-07-14 13:55 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-14 3:06 ` Casey Schaufler
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-07-15 13:48 David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 13:48 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:28 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:28 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:31 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-15 14:31 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:29 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:29 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:49 ` Greg KH
2009-07-21 16:49 ` Greg KH
2009-07-21 16:34 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 16:34 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 17:01 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-21 17:01 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-24 8:13 ` James Morris
2009-07-24 8:13 ` James Morris
2009-07-24 14:34 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-24 14:34 ` David P. Quigley
2009-07-24 14:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-07-24 14:54 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-14 4:59 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-14 4:59 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-14 12:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 12:20 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 12:40 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 12:40 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-15 1:33 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15 1:33 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-17 12:01 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-17 12:01 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-15 1:19 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15 1:19 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-17 11:53 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-17 11:53 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-08-14 22:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-14 22:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15 1:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15 1:42 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15 2:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15 2:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15 4:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15 4:56 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-15 6:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-15 6:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-08-16 17:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-16 17:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-20 13:18 ` David P. Quigley
2009-08-20 13:18 ` David P. Quigley
2009-08-21 3:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-08-21 3:38 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-09-03 18:25 David P. Quigley
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