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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "Oliver Neukum" <oliver@neukum.org>,
	"Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi.denis-courmont@nokia.com>,
	"ext Dan Williams" <dcbw@redhat.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB host CDC Phonet network interface driver
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:15:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1248254134.28545.111.camel@violet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090722101102.4aba96bd@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

Hi Alan,

> > The AT stuff is really problematic. Look at the hoops ISDN and software
> > modem drivers go through to emulate AT commands. I know even of a CDC-ACM
> > modem which can't deal with AT commands inline (that's within spec).
> > It seems to me we should have a modem API in kernel.
> 
> For devices which don't deal in AT commands probably but for devices
> whose firmware provides an AT command interface over serial I would
> disagree.

I fully agree here. Even if you think you get AT commands under control,
you really won't in the end. That standard is so wildly mis-interpreted
that it is not even funny anymore.

Regards

Marcel



  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-22  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-21 11:58 [PATCH] USB host CDC Phonet network interface driver Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-07-21 13:52 ` Dan Williams
     [not found]   ` <1248184373.6558.15.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-21 15:34     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-07-22  8:37     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]       ` <200907221137.07005.remi.denis-courmont-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-22  8:40         ` Alan Cox
2009-07-22  8:41         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-07-22  9:11           ` Alan Cox
2009-07-22  9:15             ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2009-07-22 11:07               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-07-23 14:34                 ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                   ` <1248359692.774.22.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-24 12:58                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-07-24 12:01               ` Oliver Neukum
2009-07-24 12:14                 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-07-24 12:31                   ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                     ` <200907241431.08858.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-24 12:48                       ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                         ` <20090724134805.0d9496be-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-24 13:00                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-07-24 14:12                           ` Oliver Neukum
2009-07-24 14:19                             ` Alan Cox
2009-07-24 16:59                               ` Oliver Neukum
2009-07-24 18:00                             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-07-24 23:19                               ` Alan Cox
2009-07-27 17:36                               ` Dan Williams
2009-07-27 17:59                                 ` Marcel Holtmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-07-17  9:56 Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-07-17 13:47 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]   ` <200907171547.39815.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-20  6:35     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found]       ` <200907200935.19103.remi.denis-courmont-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-20  6:41         ` Oliver Neukum
2009-07-20 14:55       ` David Miller
2009-07-21 19:42 ` David Miller
     [not found]   ` <20090721.124217.03326492.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-21 20:14     ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-07-21 20:18       ` David Miller
     [not found]         ` <20090721.131816.116617596.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-21 20:20           ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-07-21 20:20           ` David Miller
2009-07-22  6:57         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2009-07-15 13:59 Rémi Denis-Courmont
     [not found] ` <1247666341-7121-1-git-send-email-remi.denis-courmont-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-15 14:20   ` Oliver Neukum
2009-07-16  7:12     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont

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