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From: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
To: Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>,
	linville@tuxdriver.com, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: use beacons for connection monitoring
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:41:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1249033273.23662.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1249027460.2609.2.camel@maxim-laptop>

Hi Maxim,

> > > Fix it then. Offer an implementation of your superior solution.
> > 
> > I just don't think that this patch is a solution because it means that
> > we'll be connected to the AP forever, without knowing anything is wrong,
> > if the AP can reach us but we can't reach the AP (maybe because we have
> > a good Intel card with great sensitivity).
> > 
> > Sure -- it's possible to factor in transmit status reports (but remember
> > that not all hardware gives those reliably) or do things on a different
> > schedule etc. But as long as nobody wants to really improve things I
> > don't see why we should take the regression and _remove_ the current
> > behaviour.
> 
> It is ok to send probes every minute or so, but not each second, and 
> probes must be retried.
> 
> Because of these probes, wireless literally reconnects every 5 seconds,
> here, and I am 10 meters from the AP.

even with Reinette's patch, I am seeing this:

[18594.423855] wlan0: cancelling probereq poll due to a received beacon
[18629.544841] No probe response from AP 00:1c:f0:xx:xx:xx after 200ms, disconnecting.

So that is with the patch, being 1m away from the AP, in the 18th floor
of a building and with only another 10 APs around me.

The Bluetooth world calls this link supervision timeout and the default
value for that timeout is 30 seconds. I think it is the best to make
this value configurable and increase it to at least 30 seconds by
default. Within Bluetooth you can change it and runtime.

Johannes, I don't care how good or bad some hardware is. How sensitive
or not. This is a clear regression and you are overdoing it here with
only waiting for 200ms.

Regards

Marcel



  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-31  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-29 21:32 [PATCH] mac80211: use beacons for connection monitoring Reinette Chatre
2009-07-29 21:39 ` Ben Greear
2009-07-30 10:30   ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-30 14:41     ` Ben Greear
2009-07-30 17:45     ` reinette chatre
2009-07-30 19:47       ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-29 21:45 ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-29 21:50   ` reinette chatre
2009-07-30  5:24     ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-07-29 22:10   ` Ben Greear
2009-07-30 10:28     ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-30  2:39   ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-07-30  9:36   ` Helmut Schaa
2009-07-30  9:54     ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-31  7:08 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-07-31  7:43   ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-31  7:58     ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-31  8:04       ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-07-31  9:41         ` Marcel Holtmann [this message]
2009-07-31 13:19     ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-07-31 13:39       ` Johannes Berg
2009-07-31 13:56         ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-07-31 14:06           ` Johannes Berg

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