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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
To: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v4
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:10:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1254568218.7122.20.camel@pasglop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1254212303-8737-1-git-send-email-agraf@suse.de>

On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 20:59 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 12:08 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> > 
> > So these MSRs can be modified by the hypervisor?  Otherwise you'd cache 
> > them in the guest with no hypervisor involvement, right?  (just making 
> > sure :)
> 
> There's one MSR :-) Among others, it can be altered by the act of
> taking an interrupt (for example, it contains the PR bit, which means
> user vs. supervisor, things like that).

For a bit more context...

On PowerPC, all those "special" registers are called "SPR"s (special
registers, surprise ! :-)

They are generally accessed via mfspr/mtspr instructions that encode
the SPR number, though some of them can also have decicated instructions
or be set as a side effect of some instructions or events etc...

MSR is a bit special here because it's not per-se an SPR. It's the
Machine State Register, in the core, it's in the fast path of a whole
bunch of pipeline stages, and it contains the state of things such as
the current privilege level, the state of MMU translation for I and D,
the interrupt enable bit, etc... It's accessed via specific mfmsr/mtmsr
instructions (to simplify as there are other instructions that modify
the MSR as a side effect, interrupts do that too, etc...).

So the MSR warrants special treatment for KVM. Other SPRs may or may not
depending on what they are. Some are just storage like the SPRGs, some
contain a copy of the previous PC and MSR when taking an interrupt (SRR0
and SRR1) and are used by the rfi instruction to restore them when
returning from an interrupt, and some are totally unrelated (such as
the decrementer which is our core timer facility) or other processor
specific registers containing various things like cache configuration
etc...

The main issue with kernel entry / exit performances, though, revolve
around MSR, SPRG and SRR0/1 accesses. SPRGs could -almost- be entirely
guest cached, but since the goal is to save a register to use as scrach
at a time when no register can be clobbered, saving a register to them
must fit in one instruction that has no side effect. The typical option
we are thinking about here is a store-absolute to an address that KVM
can then map to some per-CPU storage page.

Things like SRR0/SRR1 can be replaced by similar load/stores as long as
the HV sets them appropriately with the original MSR (or emulated MSR)
and PC when directing an interrupt to the guest, and know where to
retrieve the content set by the kernel when emulating an "rfi"
instruction. The MSR can be read from cache always by the guest as
long as the HV knows how to alter its cached value when directing
an interrupt to the guest or emulating another of those instructions
that can affect it (such as rfi of course), etc...

So in our case, that (relatively small) level of paravirt provides a
tremendous performance boost, since every guest interrupt (syscall,
etc...) goes down from something like a good dozen emulation traps
to maybe a couple just for the base entry/exit path from the kernel.

This is very different from the issues around PV that you guys had in
x86 world related to MMU emulation, though in our case, PV may also
prove useful, as our MMU structure is very different, this is a
completely orthogonal matter.

Cheers,
Ben.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-03 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 244+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-29  8:17 [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v4 Alexander Graf
2009-09-30  8:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  8:47 ` Alexander Graf
2009-09-30  8:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  9:11 ` Alexander Graf
2009-09-30  9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30  9:37 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-02  0:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-02  0:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-03 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-03 10:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-03 11:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2009-10-21 15:03 ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v5 Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03   ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03   ` [PATCH 01/27] Move dirty logging code to sub-arch Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03     ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]     ` <1256137413-15256-2-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03       ` [PATCH 02/27] Pass PVR in sregs Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03         ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03         ` [PATCH 03/27] Add Book3s definitions Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03           ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03           ` [PATCH 04/27] Add Book3s fields to vcpu structs Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03             ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03             ` [PATCH 05/27] Add asm/kvm_book3s.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03               ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03               ` [PATCH 06/27] Add Book3s_64 intercept helpers Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                 ` [PATCH 07/27] Add book3s_64 highmem asm code Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                   ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                   ` <1256137413-15256-8-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                     ` [PATCH 08/27] Add SLB switching code for entry/exit Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                       ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                       ` <1256137413-15256-9-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                         ` [PATCH 09/27] Add interrupt handling code Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                           ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                           ` <1256137413-15256-10-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                             ` [PATCH 10/27] Add book3s.c Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                               ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                               ` [PATCH 11/27] Add book3s_64 Host MMU handling Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                 ` [PATCH 12/27] Add book3s_64 guest MMU Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                   ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                   ` <1256137413-15256-13-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                     ` [PATCH 13/27] Add book3s_32 " Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                       ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                       ` <1256137413-15256-14-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                         ` [PATCH 14/27] Add book3s_64 specific opcode emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                           ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                           ` <1256137413-15256-15-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                             ` [PATCH 15/27] Add mfdec emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                               ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                               ` <1256137413-15256-16-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                 ` [PATCH 16/27] Add desktop PowerPC specific emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                   ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                   ` <1256137413-15256-17-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                     ` [PATCH 17/27] Make head_64.S aware of KVM real mode code Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                       ` [PATCH 18/27] Add Book3s_64 offsets to asm-offsets.c Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                         ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                         ` <1256137413-15256-19-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                           ` [PATCH 19/27] Export symbols for KVM module Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                             ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                             ` <1256137413-15256-20-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                               ` [PATCH 20/27] Split init_new_context and destroy_context Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                 ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1256137413-15256-21-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                   ` [PATCH 21/27] Export KVM symbols for module Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                     ` [PATCH 22/27] Add fields to PACA Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                       ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                       ` <1256137413-15256-23-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                         ` [PATCH 23/27] Export new PACA constants in asm-offsets Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                           ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                           ` [PATCH 24/27] Include Book3s_64 target in buildsystem Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                             ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                             ` <1256137413-15256-25-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                               ` [PATCH 25/27] Fix trace.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                                 ` [PATCH 26/27] Use Little Endian for Dirty Bitmap Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                                   ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <1256137413-15256-27-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                                     ` [PATCH 27/27] Use hrtimers for the decrementer Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:03                                                                                       ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]                                                                           ` <1256137413-15256-24-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-29  2:50                                                                             ` [PATCH 23/27] Export new PACA constants in asm-offsets Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:50                                                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:50                                                                         ` [PATCH 22/27] Add fields to PACA Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:50                                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:48                                                                   ` [PATCH 20/27] Split init_new_context and destroy_context Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:48                                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:46                                                               ` [PATCH 19/27] Export symbols for KVM module Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:46                                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:53                                                                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-29  2:53                                                                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-29  2:45                                                           ` [PATCH 18/27] Add Book3s_64 offsets to asm-offsets.c Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:45                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
     [not found]                                                       ` <1256137413-15256-18-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-29  2:45                                                         ` [PATCH 17/27] Make head_64.S aware of KVM real mode code Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:45                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-21 15:22   ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v5 Alexander Graf
2009-10-21 15:22     ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]   ` <1256137413-15256-1-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-22 13:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-22 13:26       ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-23  0:33     ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-23  0:33       ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]       ` <1256258028.7495.34.camel-6XWu2dSDoRTcKpUcGLbliUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-25 13:01         ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-25 13:01           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]           ` <4AE44C14.8040507-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-26 21:18             ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-26 21:18               ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-29  2:55             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-29  2:55               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-26 22:46   ` Olof Johansson
2009-10-26 23:06     ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]     ` <20091026230632.GB5366-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-26 23:20       ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-26 23:20         ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-10-26 23:21         ` Olof Johansson
2009-10-26 23:21           ` Olof Johansson
2009-10-27  8:56           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-27  8:56             ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-27 13:42             ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-27 13:42               ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]               ` <8E92E3B9-39D5-4D71-8B8E-96B49430B67B-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-27 15:49                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-27 15:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-30 15:47 ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v6 Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 02/27] Pass PVR in sregs Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 04/27] Add Book3s fields to vcpu structs Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 05/27] Add asm/kvm_book3s.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 06/27] Add Book3s_64 intercept helpers Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 11/27] Add book3s_64 Host MMU handling Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]     ` <1256917647-6200-12-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-01 23:39       ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-01 23:39         ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-01 23:39         ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-02  9:26         ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02  9:26           ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02  9:26           ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 17/27] Make head_64.S aware of KVM real mode code Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 18/27] Add Book3s_64 offsets to asm-offsets.c Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]   ` <1256917647-6200-1-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 01/27] Move dirty logging code to sub-arch Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 03/27] Add Book3s definitions Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 07/27] Add book3s_64 highmem asm code Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 08/27] Add SLB switching code for entry/exit Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-01 23:23       ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-01 23:23         ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-01 23:23         ` Michael Neuling
     [not found]         ` <6695.1257117827-/owAOxkjmzZAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-02  9:23           ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02  9:23             ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02  9:23             ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]             ` <00BF2D99-F2CE-4204-B4B4-0D113FD54CE6-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-02  9:39               ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-02  9:39                 ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-02  9:39                 ` Michael Neuling
2009-11-02  9:59                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02  9:59                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-02  9:59                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 09/27] Add interrupt handling code Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 10/27] Add book3s.c Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 12/27] Add book3s_64 guest MMU Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 13/27] Add book3s_32 " Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 14/27] Add book3s_64 specific opcode emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  8:47       ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-03  8:47         ` Segher Boessenkool
     [not found]         ` <A1CBD511-FF08-48BB-A8D6-9F66E20F770B-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
2009-11-03  9:06           ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  9:06             ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03  9:06             ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-03 21:38             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-03 21:38               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-04  8:43               ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-04  8:43                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-04  8:47                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-04  8:47                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-04 11:35                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-04 11:35                     ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-04 11:35                     ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-05  0:53             ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-05  0:53               ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-11-05 10:09               ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-05 10:09                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-05 10:09                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 15/27] Add mfdec emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 16/27] Add desktop PowerPC specific emulation Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 19/27] Export symbols for KVM module Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
     [not found]       ` <1256917647-6200-20-git-send-email-agraf-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-31  4:37         ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-10-31  4:37           ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-10-31  4:37           ` Stephen Rothwell
     [not found]           ` <20091031153719.10a4e61b.sfr-3FnU+UHB4dNDw9hX6IcOSA@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-31 12:02             ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-31 12:02               ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-31 12:02               ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 20/27] Split init_new_context and destroy_context Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-31  4:40       ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-10-31  4:40         ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-10-31  4:40         ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-10-31 21:20         ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-31 21:20           ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-31 21:20           ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-31 21:37           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-31 21:37             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 21/27] Export KVM symbols for module Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 22/27] Add fields to PACA Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` [PATCH 27/27] Use hrtimers for the decrementer Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47       ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-05  6:03     ` [PATCH 00/27] Add KVM support for Book3s_64 (PPC64) hosts v6 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-05  6:03       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-11-05  6:03       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 23/27] Export new PACA constants in asm-offsets Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 24/27] Include Book3s_64 target in buildsystem Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 25/27] Fix trace.h Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47   ` [PATCH 26/27] Use Little Endian for Dirty Bitmap Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf
2009-10-30 15:47     ` Alexander Graf

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