From: Jari Vanhala <ext-jari.vanhala@nokia.com>
To: Anssi Hannula <anssi.hannula@iki.fi>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Input: Add direction to ff-memless
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 11:08:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1260263284.19783.1758.camel@tema> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B1D70C4.9000603@iki.fi>
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 22:16 +0100, ext Anssi Hannula wrote:
> Jari Vanhala wrote:
> > This adds simple direction calculation to effect
> > combine. It's useful to decide motor direction for
> > rumble (vibrator).
>
> Interesting. None of the existing rumble drivers use the direction
> field. I assume your device has two directions for the motor?
Motors can be driven forward and reverse.
> I'm somewhat suspicious if the motor direction matters at all, but I
> guess it could.
They feel a little different and chancing direction makes it briefly
stop. In one effect it's not that clear, but having effects with
different direction (in sequence) it's notable.
> > +static unsigned int ml_calculate_direction(
> > + unsigned int direction, unsigned int force,
> > + unsigned int new_direction, unsigned int new_force)
> > +{
> > + return ((u32)direction * force + new_direction * new_force) /
> > + (force + new_force);
> > +}
>
> What if direction is 0xf000 and new_direction is 0x1000? The correct
> behaviour would be to use direction 0x0000 or so, but this code would
> return 0x8000 (assuming equal forces).
I know it's not perfect, but it's simple and gives good enough result.
And I just need to know which side of 0x8000 it is.
> We could also additionally carry the effect of directions into magnitude
> when summing the force vectors, so that two equal-magnitude rumbles with
> opposite directions would cancel themselves out. I'd be slightly against
> that, though, as rumble doesn't really have clear directions anyway.
> (just mentioning this in case someone thinks we should do that)
I also thought that, but magnitude is felt much more that direction. If
that direction used would be more than forward/reverse, it could make
sense.
++Jam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-08 9:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-04 13:05 [PATCH] Input: Add direction to ff-memless Jari Vanhala
2009-12-04 13:05 ` [PATCH] Input: Force Feedback core memory leak Jari Vanhala
2009-12-07 6:26 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-07 21:16 ` [PATCH] Input: Add direction to ff-memless Anssi Hannula
2009-12-08 9:08 ` Jari Vanhala [this message]
2009-12-09 1:15 ` Anssi Hannula
2009-12-23 12:58 ` [PATCH v2] " Jari Vanhala
2009-12-24 23:37 ` Anssi Hannula
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