From: Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Ferenc Wagner <wferi@niif.hu>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@iki.fi>,
"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH v2 1/2] Input: gpio-keys - allow platform to specify exact irq flags
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:19:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1260436759.12346.44.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091209180345.GE4456@core.coreip.homeip.net>
On Wed, 2009-12-09 at 10:03 -0800, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 09, 2009 at 09:31:00AM +0200, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 09:42 -0800, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > > > > I also see that gpio-keys is quite different in the sence that it can
> > > > > shut off buttons selectively. I fact, at the moment every button can be
> > > > > considered a separate device... But that would be too much overhead.
> > > > >
> > > > > They could probably split the keys into 2 groups (critical that should
> > > > > be always active) and not critical, that could be shut off, but I think
> > > > > they want teh flexibility of controlling this at runtime instead of
> > > > > doing it in board data.
> > > >
> > > > I suggested including this into the "abstract input device" model, but
> > > > you refuse this. But I still think it is a good idea.
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, if we look at an input device as at something abstract which has
> > > > many keys, why we cannot assume that separate keys can be
> > > > enabled/disabled? Just imagine you have a very advanced keybord :-) And
> > > > we simply implement an ioctl which enables/disables a specific key. The
> > > > generic layers just pass this ioctl down to the lower lever drivers. If
> > > > the specific input device or driver support it - fine, if not - it
> > > > returns -EINVAL or something like that.
> > >
> > > I refuse it because it will be supported by exactly 1 driver in the
> > > kernel - gpio-keys. It is the only driver that allows shut half of the
> > > "device" (because in reality it is a group of disjoint devices). It is
> > > the only case when "muting" a button means that IRQ is shut off abnd
> > > thus CPU can continue to sleep if that button is pressed. For all other
> > > devices that have 1 inettrupt per device, you still have to wake up,
> > > because you don't know whether the button that generated event is
> > > "important" or not.
> >
> > Fair enough.
> >
> > > Now, there is a issue of waking up userspace task, additional scheduling
> > > and keeping CPU running longer than necessary for "uninteresting" keys.
> > > This can be solved by implementing a subscription model which allows
> > > filtering uninteresing events on a per-client basis at evdev level.
> >
> > Right. And for gpio_keys, this would be dine on the driver level.
>
> But the semantics are different - if done on driver level you'd be
> affecting _all_ consumers of the device; what I want to be done only
> affects owner of the file descriptor.
OK, makes sense. I'm convinced, thanks!
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-10 9:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-23 12:15 [RFC PATCH 0/1] Enabling/disabling separate gpio-keys buttons Mika Westerberg
2009-10-23 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] Input: gpio-keys: export gpio key information through sysfs Mika Westerberg
2009-10-28 5:43 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-10-28 10:50 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-04 9:06 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-04 9:25 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-06 7:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-09 15:09 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-09 17:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-10 11:04 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-10 17:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-11 6:50 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-11 8:19 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-11 8:52 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-11 9:59 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-11 10:26 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-11 10:30 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-11 17:40 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-12 5:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-19 7:23 ` [PATCH 0/2] Input: gpio-keys: support for disabling GPIOs Mika Westerberg
2009-11-19 7:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] Input: gpio-keys: allow drivers to specify whether IRQ can be shared Mika Westerberg
2009-11-20 8:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-20 10:08 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-19 7:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] Input: gpio-keys: added support for disabling gpios through sysfs Mika Westerberg
2009-11-20 8:40 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-20 12:17 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-23 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] Input: gpio-keys: support for disabling GPIOs Mika Westerberg
2009-11-23 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] Input: gpio-keys - allow platform to specify exact irq flags Mika Westerberg
2009-11-23 16:42 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-23 17:24 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-23 18:50 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-24 6:37 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-24 11:05 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-24 17:02 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-24 18:39 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-26 6:35 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-27 10:54 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-28 12:16 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-28 13:27 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-29 12:26 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-29 12:26 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-29 16:04 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-29 16:04 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-11-29 22:58 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 8:27 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-30 9:14 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-30 9:14 ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-30 9:37 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-12-01 0:07 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 9:37 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-30 20:59 ` [linux-pm] " Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-01 0:37 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-01 1:05 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 8:27 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-29 22:58 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 9:16 ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-30 15:00 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-30 15:00 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-11-30 19:05 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 19:05 ` [linux-pm] " Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 19:30 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-30 20:51 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 20:51 ` [linux-pm] " Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 21:59 ` Alan Stern
2009-11-30 21:59 ` [linux-pm] " Alan Stern
2009-12-01 10:08 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-12-01 15:11 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-01 15:11 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-01 10:08 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-30 19:30 ` Alan Stern
2009-12-06 8:47 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2009-12-08 4:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 4:22 ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 13:03 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-08 13:03 ` [linux-pm] " Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-08 17:42 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-08 17:42 ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-09 7:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-09 18:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-09 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-09 21:48 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-09 21:48 ` [linux-pm] " Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-10 10:13 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-10 10:13 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2009-12-09 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-10 9:19 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-10 9:19 ` Artem Bityutskiy [this message]
2009-12-09 18:03 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-09 7:31 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-12-06 8:47 ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-30 9:16 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-12-06 8:46 ` Pavel Machek
2009-12-06 8:46 ` [linux-pm] " Pavel Machek
2009-11-23 12:39 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] Input: gpio-keys - added support for disabling gpios through sysfs Mika Westerberg
2009-11-11 10:36 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Input: adding new ioctl()s for enabling/disabling events Mika Westerberg
2009-11-11 10:36 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] Input: added 2 new ioctl()s for setting/getting event state Mika Westerberg
2009-11-11 10:36 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] Input: gpio-keys: implemented support for enabling/disabling gpios Mika Westerberg
2009-11-11 14:37 ` Ferenc Wagner
2009-11-11 14:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2009-11-11 17:08 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2009-11-12 6:23 ` Mika Westerberg
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