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From: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Changli Gao <xiaosuo@gmail.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	therbert@google.com, shemminger@vyatta.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Eilon Greenstein <eilong@broadcom.com>,
	Brian Bloniarz <bmb@athenacr.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 09:49:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1272721749.14499.50.camel@bigi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1272720125.2230.178.camel@edumazet-laptop>

On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 15:22 +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:

> You must understand that the whole 'bench' is mostly governed by
> scheduler artifacts. The regression you mention is probably a side
> effect.

likely.

> By slowing down one part, its possible to zap all calls to scheduler and
> go maybe 300% faster (Because consumer threads can avoid 3/4 of the time
> to schedule)
> 
> Reciprocally, optimizing one part of the network stack might make
> threads hitting an empty queue, and need to call more often the
> scheduler.

It is fair to say that what i am seeing is _not_ fatal because it is rps
that is regressing; non-rps is fine. I would consider non-rps to be the
common use scenario and if that was doing badly then it is a problem.
The good news is it is getting better - likely because of some changes
made on behalf of rps ;->
With rps, one could follow some instructions on how to make it better.
I am hoping that some of the system "magic" is documented as Tom
mentioned he will.

> This is why some higly specialized programs never block/schedule and
> perform busy loops instead.

Agreed. My brain cells should learn to accept this fact ;->

cheers,
jamal


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-01 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-23  8:12 [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue Changli Gao
2010-04-23  9:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-23 22:02   ` jamal
2010-04-24 14:10     ` jamal
2010-04-26 14:03       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 14:55         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-26 21:06           ` jamal
     [not found]           ` <20100429174056.GA8044@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-29 17:56             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 18:10               ` OFT - reserving CPU's for networking Stephen Hemminger
2010-04-29 19:19                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-29 20:02                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 18:15                     ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-30 18:57                   ` David Miller
2010-04-30 19:58                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-04-30 21:01                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-04-30 22:30                       ` David Miller
2010-05-01 10:53                         ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-01 22:03                           ` David Miller
2010-05-01 22:58                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-01 23:29                               ` David Miller
2010-05-01 23:44                             ` Ben Hutchings
2010-05-01 20:31                     ` Martin Josefsson
2010-05-01 22:13                       ` David Miller
     [not found]               ` <20100429182347.GA8512@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-29 19:12                 ` [PATCH v6] net: batch skb dequeueing from softnet input_pkt_queue Eric Dumazet
     [not found]                   ` <20100429214144.GA10663@gargoyle.fritz.box>
2010-04-30  5:25                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 23:38                     ` David Miller
2010-05-01 11:00                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02  6:56                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02  9:20                           ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 10:54                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 14:13                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 14:27                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 15:32                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 17:54                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 19:22                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 22:06                                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-03  3:50                                       ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03  5:17                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-03 10:22                                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 10:34                                             ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-03 14:09                                               ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 14:45                                                 ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-05-04  1:10                                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-03 15:52                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-04  1:11                                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 21:30                                     ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 15:46                               ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 16:35                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 17:43                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-05-02 17:47                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 21:25                                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 21:45                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-02 21:54                                       ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-02 22:08                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-03 20:15                                           ` jamal
2010-04-26 21:03         ` jamal
2010-04-23 10:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:08   ` David Miller
2010-04-27 22:18     ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] bnx2x: Remove two prefetch() Eric Dumazet
2010-04-27 22:19       ` David Miller
2010-04-28 13:14         ` Eilon Greenstein
2010-04-28 15:44           ` Eliezer Tamir
2010-04-28 16:53           ` David Miller
     [not found]           ` <w2ue8f3c3211004280842r9f2589e8qb8fd4b7933cd9756@mail.gmail.com>
2010-04-28 16:55             ` David Miller
2010-04-28 11:33       ` jamal
2010-04-28 12:33         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 12:36           ` jamal
2010-04-28 14:06             ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 14:19               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 14:34                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 21:36               ` David Miller
2010-04-28 22:22                 ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: ip_queue_rcv_skb() helper Eric Dumazet
2010-04-28 22:39                   ` David Miller
2010-04-28 23:44               ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path jamal
2010-04-29  0:00                 ` jamal
2010-04-29  4:09                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 11:35                   ` jamal
2010-04-29 12:12                     ` Changli Gao
2010-04-29 12:45                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:17                         ` jamal
2010-04-29 13:21                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:37                             ` jamal
2010-04-29 13:49                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-29 13:56                                 ` jamal
2010-04-29 20:36                                   ` jamal
2010-04-29 21:01                                     ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: sock_def_readable() and friends RCU conversion Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 13:55                                       ` Brian Bloniarz
2010-04-30 17:26                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-04-30 23:35                                       ` David Miller
2010-05-01  4:56                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  7:02                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  8:03                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 22:00                                             ` David Miller
2010-04-30 19:30                                     ` [PATCH net-next-2.6] net: speedup udp receive path jamal
2010-04-30 20:40                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  0:06                                         ` jamal
2010-05-01  5:57                                           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01  6:14                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 10:24                                               ` Changli Gao
2010-05-01 10:47                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 11:29                                               ` jamal
2010-05-01 11:23                                             ` jamal
2010-05-01 11:42                                               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 11:56                                                 ` jamal
2010-05-01 13:22                                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-05-01 13:49                                                     ` jamal [this message]
2010-05-03 20:10                                                   ` jamal
2010-04-29 23:07                         ` Changli Gao

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