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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: "Nicholas A. Bellinger" <nab@linux-iscsi.org>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>,
	Dirk Meister <dmeister@uni-paderborn.de>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Chetan Loke <chetanloke@gmail.com>,
	Chetan Loke <generationgnu@yahoo.com>,
	scst-devel <scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010...
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:39:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1283769578.15944.1293.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1283731194.556.147.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org>

On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 16:59 -0700, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 16:41 -0700, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 05, 2010 at 02:50:47PM -0700, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote:
> > > Anyways, if we are going to compare SCM distributed vs. centralized
> > > workflow in terms of kernel projects, lets please at least compare
> > > apples to apples here.
> > > 
> > 
> > No, we should not be comparing SCMs at all here but rather 2 competing
> > implementations based on quality of the code. You tried to bring SMC
> > angle in and I am saying that it is BS.
> > 
> 
> Again, without getting into another pointless flamewar,  I think the
> main point here is that a open source project using a distributed
> workflow (like git) has major advantages when it comes to working with a
> larger group of developers than a centralized model (like SVN) does.
> 
> Because being a subsystem maintainer typically involves this type of
> complex workflow involving lots of different parties, git is a tool that
> was created (originally) expressely for a kernel workflow, and for those
> types of people it works really, really well.

Oh, for god's sake children.  Why does every LIO vs SCST discussion turn
into a pointless flameware over stuff no-one really cares about?  If
none of you has anything substantive to say: don't say it.

Since patches into SCSI go over the mailing list for review and
integration (and running checkpatch.pl on ... this would be a hint), I
don't really give a toss how they're generated.

> So, please understand that code and project workflow is only one of the
> reasons why TCM/LIO v4 was selected over SCST.

It isn't yet ... your code still has to be reviewed properly.  My
preferred reviewer is currently honing his skills on a diet of raw beef
in Argentina, but hopefully he'll get around to it shortly.

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-06 10:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-18 14:58 [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 14:58 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 15:11 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTimJGxn=5kEMH68XVWqFcYG3vpfLjLjZpFGqhG_4@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-18 15:30     ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 15:30       ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:04   ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:18     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:50       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-19  1:18         ` jack wang
2010-08-19  1:18           ` jack wang
2010-08-19 21:20           ` Dirk Meister
2010-08-19 22:29             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-21 18:42               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:25                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-24 18:08                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:43                 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22  7:39                   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-22 20:29                     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 13:47                       ` Joe Landman
2010-08-23 15:12                         ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 15:12                           ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]                         ` <AANLkTim-M6dfLvJQnbieFqZCGG33E+-i+u_soCq2p9f1@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-23 16:07                           ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-23 18:03                             ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-23 18:03                               ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-24  7:25                               ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-24  7:25                                 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-24 14:43                                 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:43                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:55                                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 17:51                                     ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 20:40                                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 14:55                                 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
     [not found]                                 ` <4C7404C4.4040704@vlnb.net>
2010-08-24 20:31                                   ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-08-24 20:31                                     ` Chris Worley
2010-08-25 19:12                                     ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-16 15:05                                     ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-09-16 15:05                                     ` Chris Worley
2010-08-23 19:41                       ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:41                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:51                     ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 14:56                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-25 22:20                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-08-25 22:45                         ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-24 14:57                     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 19:48                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 21:23                         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-26 20:11                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-26 21:23                             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-28 17:32                               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-28 20:47                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-30 20:47                                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-30 21:46                                     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-02 19:38                                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-02 19:38                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-02 20:25                                         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 20:18                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 21:50                                             ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 23:13                                               ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06  0:12                                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06  0:58                                                   ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06  1:34                                                     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06  5:04                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:41                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:59                                                 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06  4:56                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-06 10:39                                                   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2010-09-06 11:02                                                     ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-06 11:02                                                       ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-06 11:27                                                       ` James Bottomley
2010-09-06 15:26                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:47                                                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:55                                                       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 22:14                                                         ` david
2010-09-07  0:44                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07  3:45                                                           ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-07  6:15                                                             ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07  6:08                                                           ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07  6:26                                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07  6:29                                                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-09-07  6:45                                                               ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07 13:20                                                                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-07 20:14                                                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-07 20:14                                                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:16                                               ` Greg KH
2010-09-06 17:28                                           ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-06 17:28                                             ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-06 21:52                                           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:52                                             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-20 13:46           ` Ruben Laban
2010-08-18 17:51       ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:19   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:19     ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:28   ` Joe Landman
2010-08-18 17:52     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 15:12 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-20 17:40 Ari Lemmke
2010-08-16 16:20 Fwd: Re: [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-17 20:30 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:52   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 20:43     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-21 18:51       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:38         ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22 22:10           ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: " Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-08-22 22:10             ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-08-23 16:59             ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 17:44               ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 17:44                 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 17:58                 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 20:11                   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 20:11                     ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 20:21                     ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 19:40               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 20:38                 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 10:32                   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-24 10:32                     ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-24 13:01                   ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 13:01                     ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 19:53                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 19:40             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin

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