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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] si time accounting accounts bh_disable'd time to si -v3
Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2010 01:16:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1285975006.2144.67.camel@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinEN8i=Tx-CrdVzv-FGJH5jXaxwsPm-GDf-M_hi@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2010-09-30 at 09:26 -0700, Venkatesh Pallipadi wrote:
> > One nit: in_serving_softirq() doesn't seem right as either:
> >
> >  - we're not accounting ksoftirq in it, or
> >  - we're are and VIRT_CPU_ACCOUNTING is again broken ;-)
> >
> > So only the softirq from irq tails wants to have SOFTIRQ_OFFSET set, the
> > ksoftirqd stuff can be tested for using PF_flags or something (ksoftirq
> > doesn't currently have a PF_SOFTIRQ flag, but -rt does and we could
> > bring that over).
> >
> 
> The problem is that ksoftirqd is also handling softirq's and some
> eventual users of in_serving_softirq (like the network code in this
> patch) want to differentiate between whether it is the softirq thats
> running or some real process (!ksoftirqd) context.

The make in_serving_softirq() be something like:
  (preempt_count() & SOFTIRQ_OFFSET) || (current->flags & PF_SOFTIRQ)


> Also, ksoftirqd adds to softirq counts, does trace softirq, etc. So,
> it kind of made sense to add the time also to softirq stats as well.
> If we dont account time to softirq stats, then if some user is looking
> at say time per softirq using the softirq count will be misled. No?

Simply add back the task accounting when you report it?

> In the other thread you mentioned doing that will cause problems. Were
> you thinking of scheduler issues or are there other problems charging
> softirq time this way?

Of course there are.. you're double accounting the time of ksoftirqd,
and worse, you're adding that back into the equation as part of the !
sched_fair time.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-02 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-29 19:21 Proper kernel irq time accounting -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-29 19:21 ` [PATCH 1/7] si time accounting accounts bh_disable'd time to si -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-30 11:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-30 16:26     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-01 23:16       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2010-10-02 15:42         ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-03  0:34           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-04 16:54             ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-29 19:21 ` [PATCH 2/7] Consolidate account_system_vtime extern declaration -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-29 19:21 ` [PATCH 3/7] Add IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING, finer accounting of irq time -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-30 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-30 16:29     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-30 20:38       ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-01 11:46         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-01 16:51           ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-01 17:29             ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-01 23:14               ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-01 23:32                 ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-02 10:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-02 15:26                     ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-10-03  0:26                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-01 11:45       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-29 19:21 ` [PATCH 4/7] x86: Add IRQ_TIME_ACCOUNTING in x86 -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-29 19:21 ` [PATCH 5/7] sched: Do not account irq time to current task -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-29 19:21 ` [PATCH 6/7] sched: Remove irq time from available CPU power -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-29 19:21 ` [PATCH 7/7] Export per cpu hardirq and softirq time in proc -v3 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-30  7:59 ` Proper kernel irq time accounting -v3 Andi Kleen
2010-09-30 16:37   ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2010-09-30 17:36     ` Andi Kleen

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