From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 93-97-173-237.zone5.bethere.co.uk ([93.97.173.237] helo=tim.rpsys.net) by linuxtogo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PkPDF-0005as-AH for openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org; Wed, 02 Feb 2011 00:00:41 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tim.rpsys.net (8.13.6/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p11Mxl5S001339 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:59:47 GMT Received: from tim.rpsys.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tim.rpsys.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00930-05 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:59:43 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.3.10] ([192.168.3.10]) (authenticated bits=0) by tim.rpsys.net (8.13.6/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p11MxcbE001333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 22:59:39 GMT From: Richard Purdie To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org In-Reply-To: <4D487BA0.5080101@opensimpad.org> References: <1296483034.13501.13046.camel@rex> <4D48258D.7050302@mentor.com> <4D484FED.10603@balister.org> <4D487BA0.5080101@opensimpad.org> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:59:37 +0000 Message-ID: <1296601177.13501.21530.camel@rex> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rpsys.net Subject: Re: OE TSC X-BeenThere: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org List-Id: Using the OpenEmbedded metadata to build Distributions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:00:41 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 2011-02-01 at 22:31 +0100, Bernhard Guillon wrote: > On 01.02.2011 21:08, Frans Meulenbroeks wrote: > > ... a team that > > is chosen by the community is much more empowered to make decisions. > > > +1 > > In my opinion it is very important in the current situation to have a vote. Just please keep in mind what this looks like to the outside world. So far various amounts of bad timing, unfortunate circumstances and the rules have meant that 2-4 months on we could appear to be going around in circles and unlikely to make a "real" decision soon (at least six weeks for a vote). Yocto talks to people commercially and 3-5 months to make some decisions (not implement, just make the decisions) would be commercial suicide to a business. I accept this takes as long as it takes and I'm not going to even attempt to rush anything but OE isn't doing its perception much good to be brutally honest. On the plus side I know there are positive moves afoot too so its not all doom and gloom but its worth keeping the above in mind. Cheers, Richard