From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603DDC11D0C for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shelob.surriel.com (shelob.surriel.com [96.67.55.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 339DF20722 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 20:13:01 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 339DF20722 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=vt.edu Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kernelnewbies-bounces@kernelnewbies.org Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=shelob.surriel.com) by shelob.surriel.com with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1j4sBS-0000Fr-Nc; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:12:30 -0500 Received: from omr1.cc.ipv6.vt.edu ([2607:b400:92:8300:0:c6:2117:b0e] helo=omr1.cc.vt.edu) by shelob.surriel.com with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1j4sBP-0000Fl-VX for kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:12:28 -0500 Received: from mr3.cc.vt.edu (mr3.cc.vt.edu [IPv6:2607:b400:92:8500:0:7f:b804:6b0a]) by omr1.cc.vt.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 01KKCPQm006706 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:12:26 -0500 Received: from mail-qt1-f197.google.com (mail-qt1-f197.google.com [209.85.160.197]) by mr3.cc.vt.edu (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 01KKCK7I032448 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:12:25 -0500 Received: by mail-qt1-f197.google.com with SMTP id r30so3413313qtb.10 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:12:25 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:date:message-id; bh=ca9tv+bNioqVjXsnM3drOmwsFJb1cLR8uAwL6ggdWSs=; b=kAEGcPQf78ataCbdcR0cK2s76OlVn24h2D4/Z3X9L3ES0DY+DzyAfGdsVJBmNO3Za+ 4knSFNOHOMv/17uhsD1C4ncb6gdE//UcFjo1/3iVh7+9Owtu52WLUbqwRVd6QOz4zkhq WTTgsI9gkCHs6uFqcpk2yjVURwJPnEa5nJS/nik5uof9XoQ16gBWKBYO16PJ5QF82BxB w8fRxzSJIsivyRaswJvnNWghJi4prqgPUinL4AcIi1k7pkMtEblAaEiuOoZ+/cJ2VbRp 5dc6NWi3zB7SIjL6A+pBTLaAYrfeg7NhOl2169U+BqhP51X76tiENcWMt6etgbI7QLlK hbbQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUFV0FUGLDOdMovN7V/N1AspfQca4o6QNOAikHlaUmjThn1ocDT p+9ftwITVW1hJgFhgqk67CV+y0yy5JGzTXUd2JGrw1kjU44oIyszUsVX8zn7Gw2SlcnfWNg6BSs MFH+oThsAq9e0Clecm7cJhVPgHl6RUMNvdX9Q7v8= X-Received: by 2002:ae9:e204:: with SMTP id c4mr27133805qkc.10.1582229540112; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:12:20 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxrf1IC7iveKAM6Sx+P4YdNpoWq9EwqM1mjwHA1Q5t8sZm0EQXuL8ISfkIQoz3A4WNjbtCAsw== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:e204:: with SMTP id c4mr27133779qkc.10.1582229539768; Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from turing-police ([2601:5c0:c001:c9e1::359]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r37sm317879qtj.44.2020.02.20.12.12.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 20 Feb 2020 12:12:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Valdis Kl=?utf-8?Q?=c4=93?=tnieks" X-Google-Original-From: "Valdis Kl=?utf-8?Q?=c4=93?=tnieks" X-Mailer: exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 with nmh-1.7+dev To: Ruben Safir Subject: Re: New text In-Reply-To: <49985cce-f875-a3ec-8627-757ed720fc38@mrbrklyn.com> References: <20200219155410.GA25523@www2.mrbrklyn.com> <228783.1582148170@turing-police> <49985cce-f875-a3ec-8627-757ed720fc38@mrbrklyn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 15:12:17 -0500 Message-ID: <12972.1582229537@turing-police> Cc: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org X-BeenThere: kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Learn about the Linux kernel List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7809200815576787513==" Errors-To: kernelnewbies-bounces@kernelnewbies.org --===============7809200815576787513== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1582229537_2081P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --==_Exmh_1582229537_2081P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 18:17:36 -0500, Ruben Safir said: > > 1) Start wading through the git log until you find the commit that > > changed the API. In either that commit, or a commit in the same series, > > whoever changed the API > > I don't think that will be a useful way to learn to code the kernel. That was addressing the specific case of "I need to update an out of tree driver to a recent kernel". And I didn't say the kernel is impossible to learn - only that there's no special consideration given in-tree to beginning kernel hackers. If you don't already understand topics like locking and caching and file systems, you need to learn those elsewhere. --==_Exmh_1582229537_2081P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Exmh version 2.9.0 11/07/2018 iQIVAwUBXk7oIAdmEQWDXROgAQL5zhAAl8jqUPEPA3EkL0yHSWDLJsz4UbYCr2lr fPGH3x3NVgO1TdW0r1RVykoA6dQkimKpiNYOq3SG4jEtqDwGSRAUBGH7+7p5VLHu uGdIw1ouSy458DAt/Gj+6y3lQfpKJMEI6oDkMkoXmcgClqfQz43+3QlBH0UOyror PBI+c8HVKieumlbeA2Su8gsKEqvObr6k1MrELciZ2U8ReIKw7iwtqFjhQ3mT9UMt vjL8Oo/2lGfsshaPCBQtK0Oo2/+8zYLKRQEW3zkFA/ek1MTiMVeMlH8IUAsPOeuy OWIlXVYFflDLfcHtqCzC488hY7Ti4KJiOjVqYWRkhWqm1bGel7aJs0gpmv4CSM/O +QWIWqnAIOiepR5RbEkWjdK/CA7Z3rzW9zic2kps7P/XsuY9Xg0ZCpnQkPU8/Wnr TgxQWhxiMbTLOyRwNrWbUfypfttbGjWzvASoQx/JVhXL76Kn1iEErX535GgMOQcv IoybtyWgWVmge7pHAV021KMdB15d/+flhNyCDWFPMiYsA38inf9I5zA5YrZYL8aD ucs1axaWVcjFyzMCQcXSkf/NHUdKuZ/q2wf+DghkWcR8LTQKHoLBWtZojq2Utayr At/cPeqnkXBpzSqEsglbXiAwkBiddmNlqEMFEWjP+p18pr5ZR1mMKa9rfxSBRa5k 1vu5h2zwrdY= =cbNs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1582229537_2081P-- --===============7809200815576787513== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Kernelnewbies mailing list Kernelnewbies@kernelnewbies.org https://lists.kernelnewbies.org/mailman/listinfo/kernelnewbies --===============7809200815576787513==--